This is a devastating self report. People are more complicated than their bodies, but I guess being conventionally attractive is enough to be happy from your PoV.
This is a conversation about attraction. Self-esteem in this context means body-image.
It absolutely is not, but you are reducing it to that. Read what OP is saying, she is looking for a relationship but is having trouble iniaiting. I mean come on, she calls herself beautiful, yet somehow you read shy as body image thing? That’s just looking skin deep.
Thanks for contributing nothing to the conversation but insults. I’m sure there’s a forum somewhere for teenagers to practise zingers, but this isn’t the place.
Maybe you misunderstood…? I didn’t say attractive people can’t have self-esteem issues. I’m saying people with self-esteem issues generally don’t say “I’m a beautiful person”. They generally say “I’m ugly and unlovable”.
I’m pragmatic & self-aware. My face is ugly from certain angles and really cute from other angles. I’m physically healthy, an acrobat, my hobbies are exercising & gym & climbing, and anyone who does that has really nice healthy fit bodies. Genetically mesomorphic like Britney Spears & J-Lo but I have posture issues because of lordosis and also weird alignment issues with my shoulders elbows and wrists that make me look kinda like a primate when I walk. Which affects my self-esteem.
How many beautiful people do we see destroying themselves with filler and lip injections? Beautiful people can absolutely have low self esteem. The self view isn’t always rational.
You can know others find you beautiful without thinking so yourself. It’s a hard thing to understand if you haven’t experienced it, but it’d along the same lines of someone thinking they’re fat when they’re 20lbs underweight.
I get what you’re saying, but like OP I’m the kind of person who can call myself beautiful but also have self esteem issues. In my case, it’s because I know it’s objective fact that people keep telling me I’m attractive, but I can’t see myself that way. Like, maybe I’m just surrounded by really supportive people who can ignore my shortcomings easier, and one day I’m going to be exposed to the fact that it turns out the majority of the world thinks I’m ugly.
It’d feel like dismissing everyone who’s ever been attracted to me to not admit that on some level I must be attractive, which would be rude, but at the same time I need people to know I can’t see what they see.
Something just isn’t adding up, here.
This is a devastating self report. People are more complicated than their bodies, but I guess being conventionally attractive is enough to be happy from your PoV.
While I get what you’re saying, attractive people are treated better simply by being attractive.
They also can get away with a lot of terrible behavior simply by being attractive.
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I said and implied nothing about my thoughts or feelings.
Thanks for stating the obvious.
Nope. I never even mentioned happiness. This is a conversation about attraction. Self-esteem in this context means body-image.
It absolutely is not, but you are reducing it to that. Read what OP is saying, she is looking for a relationship but is having trouble iniaiting. I mean come on, she calls herself beautiful, yet somehow you read shy as body image thing? That’s just looking skin deep.
Literally the first 4 words of the post:
I’m not reading between the lines, I’m reading the words themselves. Don’t call me shallow just because I’m not trying to do SCUBA in a puddle.
jesus you have such a douchey reddit attitude
Thanks for contributing nothing to the conversation but insults. I’m sure there’s a forum somewhere for teenagers to practise zingers, but this isn’t the place.
I don’t have to contribute any more than that. You have a shitty attitude.
My wife is very attractive but years of childhood bullying means she has a skewed perception of herself.
Maybe you misunderstood…? I didn’t say attractive people can’t have self-esteem issues. I’m saying people with self-esteem issues generally don’t say “I’m a beautiful person”. They generally say “I’m ugly and unlovable”.
That does make more sense.
I’m pragmatic & self-aware. My face is ugly from certain angles and really cute from other angles. I’m physically healthy, an acrobat, my hobbies are exercising & gym & climbing, and anyone who does that has really nice healthy fit bodies. Genetically mesomorphic like Britney Spears & J-Lo but I have posture issues because of lordosis and also weird alignment issues with my shoulders elbows and wrists that make me look kinda like a primate when I walk. Which affects my self-esteem.
My wife, too. Trauma from neglection and other stuff.
How many beautiful people do we see destroying themselves with filler and lip injections? Beautiful people can absolutely have low self esteem. The self view isn’t always rational.
I just wouldn’t expect a person with low self esteem to call themselves beautiful, that’s all
You can know others find you beautiful without thinking so yourself. It’s a hard thing to understand if you haven’t experienced it, but it’d along the same lines of someone thinking they’re fat when they’re 20lbs underweight.
“I’m a beautiful woman” is far different from “others call me beautiful”
I get what you’re saying, but like OP I’m the kind of person who can call myself beautiful but also have self esteem issues. In my case, it’s because I know it’s objective fact that people keep telling me I’m attractive, but I can’t see myself that way. Like, maybe I’m just surrounded by really supportive people who can ignore my shortcomings easier, and one day I’m going to be exposed to the fact that it turns out the majority of the world thinks I’m ugly.
It’d feel like dismissing everyone who’s ever been attracted to me to not admit that on some level I must be attractive, which would be rude, but at the same time I need people to know I can’t see what they see.
Maybe her low self esteem is based on some other perceived shortcoming? Like social skills for example.
Or maybe OP is just making shit up.
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What.
Uhhh somehow this ended up in the wrong thread. Sorry about that. I’ll delete.
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