• marcos@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Gotta stop pretending “left” and “right” are useful labels to apply to politics too.

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      10 months ago

      They aren’t useless, but they are pretty broad strokes that will always have a use as long as we’re talking about any de facto two party states (e.g. those with FPTP voting systems).

      It’s also worth remembering that the population of one country’s idea of left wing politicians might actually end up being right wing elsewhere (for instance, people in the US saying their democratic party are lefty when in most of Europe they would be considered center-right or just plain right-wing).

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        10 months ago

        That’s not what makes the terms useful.

        US Democrats aren’t left and the term is still useful in European politics.

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          I’m not really saying what makes them useful, that’s a long list. I was more going for saying they’re not useless, but are potentially pretty ambiguous without additional context due to how people use them.

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      10 months ago

      Please elaborate how “equality” and “hierarchy” based policies aren’t useful labels for politics anymore.

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      10 months ago

      I’ve always liked a 2 axis spectrum. Social ownership/ private ownership on one axis. Authoritarian / libertarian on the other.

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      10 months ago

      Especially “horseshoe” politics. Leftist just means centrist.