The Dem party platform apparently…

But PUMA didn’t stop Obama either.

No matter how loud “moderates” get, they’re a very small voting block. They’re just overrepresented in party leadership

Man…

Sounds like the party should have let an open and fair primary happen…

Could have seen what Biden on a debate stage was like 6 months ago…

Voters could have had all sorts of time to evaluate possible paths forward…

Like, it’s hard to make the call, but someone has to be the adult in the room and take Grandpa’s keys before his next trip to Country Kitchen Buffet.

Everybody wants to act like Biden isn’t driving down the interstate with our kids in the backseat.

It’s not enough that’s he’s not intentionally trying to get in a crash, he needs to be a safe driver. And we can’t just let Grandpa keep driving till he gets on the interstate via an exit ramp. We need to take his license before he kills anyone.

How many people are actually advocating for non voting?

All I see on Lemmy is people begging for a candidate with a better shot at beating trump, and then they get screeched at that only Biden can stop trump because…

Well, they never give a reason why it has to be Biden.

“The decision-makers are two people — it’s the president and his wife,” one of the sources familiar with the discussions said, adding: “Anyone who doesn’t understand how deeply personal and familial this decision will be isn’t knowledgeable about the situation.”

The DNC keeps saying it up to Biden…

Which is the exact opposite of what their lawyers have spent the last decade saying

We could have—and we could have voluntarily decided that, Look, we’re gonna go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way. That’s not the way it was done. But they could have. And that would have also been their right

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/dnc-lawyer-reportedly-said-they-could-have-chosen-between-clinton-sanders-over-cigars-in-back-rooms/

The DNC can say Biden isn’t the best shot at beating trump, so they’re not going with Biden.

They just don’t want to.

They only want to pull the party right, never left.

Even if that means republicans win.

But this isnt just a “deeply personal and familial decision” it’s the fucking future of our country and it’s more important than Joe Biden

And the vast majority of the electorate is even more conservative now

I’m not taking that as fact without a decent source.

Without a majority in both chambers it seems like we’re fucked

We literally just had that…

For two years…

And we’re still fucked because instead of voting for someone that would accomplish stuff, we banded together around Joe Biden.

And got “not trump” but none of what we actually want either.

Which brings us full circle to why Biden might not get enough votes to stop trump in 2024.

This election will come down to firmly purple swing states, and literally not a single one would swing blue for such a divisive candidate. (Not even saying she’s divisive for good reason, just that she objectively is when you look at public sentiment).

2008 Obama…

Our first Black president. Lots of “moderates” said the same things you’re saying now.

Then he flipped a bunch of red states. Not just purple. Solid red states voting for a young progressive minority.

You’re missing the context…

They’ve been saying they don’t need to abide by the will of the voters because they’re a private party.

And they’re right

So when they say they can’t use their power to give voters want they want because they’re impartial…

It’s obviously bullshit.

They’re going to do what they want

be at least 35 years old

Right…

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S1-C5-1/ALDE_00013692/

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

You have to be 35 to be president…

AOC will be 35 before the next president assumes office…

or maybe is, idk

She literally is…

Like, it’s not an opinion thing, she’s literally old enough to be our next president…

Dozens of states

Great.

Literally and unrioncislly great

But we’re talking about the federal government, not states…

You’re also ignoring that the reason we need a supermajority, is Dems won’t get rid of the fillibuster.

A cynic would say because that removes their best excuse for why they can’t do what their voters want.

Nobody can fight them right now though

Voters don’t expect everything to get fixed overnight

We expect the people we elect to fight for progress, even if they lose.

It’s a very low bar that the DNC isn’t meeting.

That’s what they said about Obama too…

But the first Black president got elected by flipping lots of red states even when his own party turned against him.

She was born in October.

You have to be 35 to assume office in January, not run for election.

See?

We opened a dialog and you realized the source your using is wildly unreliable and we shouldn’t care what they say.

We got there thru civility and logic.

Everyone wins.

but he is likely to be the only choice

He doesn’t have to be. Biden is the only choice the people he appointed to lead the DNC will let us have.

The party is a private organization and can do anything they want including disregarding an entire primary. The DNC literally argued this in court less than a decade ago, and the judge agreed.

You can say that the DNC won’t replace Biden because they’d rather risk trump than lose control of the party.

But you can’t just lie and say there’s nothing that can be done.

Who is that going to be though?

I used to type a lot for these, but they constantly come up.

So at this point: AOC

Why do people keep linking data for progress after last election?

Their founder openly said the point of his company was to come up with polls that make donors happy.

Then he got caught trying to use his polls to influence elections so his bets would win, and was trying to get employees involved in an illegal straw do or scheme.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_for_Progress

Seriously, because no one will answer after posting that poll:

Why would anyone use them for a source still?

Is it just one of the few things that make Biden seem like a good choice?