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Hundreds of thousands of lives have already been because of the support for the war from people like you, but that’s just not enough you need more people to die before you accept the reality of the situation.
I don’t need anyone to die, it’s not my fault that Russia attacked Ukraine! I am from east Poland and we have literally millions of Ukrainians in our country, mostly refugees who wanted to run from war. My daughter plays on playground with Ukrainian girl, she even comes to our home. You can be cool about it but we’ve seen these people, we helped them. It’s not that we want war, we want opposite. We want peace but also we want some justice, even little would be fine. From this point of view the proposition of Putin just cannot be accepted. Before II World War Hitler also was doing whatever he wanted, he took Czechoslovakia, than Poland and nobody wanted to do anything.
Since that’s obviously not going to happen, I don’t know why you’re regurgitating this talking point that you’ve memorized. Also, the head of NATO has now publicly admitted why the war started
I can understand that you don’t like NATO, I think if NATO seriously wanted Ukraine to win they could do more from the start. NATO provided enough equipment to Ukraine not to die but not enough for them to win. But that’s not justify all aggression and horror Russia brings. Moreover, Putin started conscription before he sent his treaty to not enlarge NATO. I think he just wanted casus belli for aggression. You can disagree with someone but it’s not reason to fight with him. And why Crimea was taken? Why Yanukovych had to flee to Russia? Why Donbas war started in 2014? Putin planned to take control over Ukraine many years earlier and this war is his way to take control by force but it backfired. Putin thought that West is weak and he wanted to take advantage from it. Not liking NATO cannot be reason to say that Russia had right to do what they did.
Wrong again, this was an offer that Russia will refer to when Ukraine is no longer in existence to point out that there was a way to save Ukraine that the west rejected.
Sorry, I don’t know what you referring to? Could you elaborate about this offer? Are you referring current offer or some earlier one?
Don’t take it from me though, here is what western military analysts have to say on who will have the upper hand going forward
I get it, Russia is master in attritional war but even they cannot maintain war forever. They are at war now and they stuck on border with Donbas. They progressing but very slowly. A lot depends on whom wins next elections in USA because Trump probably just will try to end war at all costs, no matter what.
I think that you are not interested in peace in the first place but in Russia winning (correct me if I’m wrong). You have right for your own vision for reality (at least in some countries…).
I don’t to want to try to change your mind but at least take into consideration that this whole conflict is not as black and white situation as you trying to show. There is no such thing as the objective truth. And everybody lies at least at some degree.
I just hope this war and war in Gaza end soon and everyone just will try to live in peace.✌️