I know we now know they went extinct 66 million years ago, and 64 millions is another date I’ve seen around, but how long how we known it was definitely way more than 40 millions ? I’m asking because it’s the date given in the the song “walk the dinosaurs” by Was (Not Was), and I wondered why such a number. Would it have seed credible at the time, or was it just arbitrary?

  • fubo@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    edit-2
    3 days ago

    While you’re fact-checking Was (Not Was), be aware that some of the historical events alleged in “I Feel Better Than James Brown” may not have occurred literally as described.

    I was attending Mardi Gras with Fidel Castro
    Buxom cross-dressers threw fake gold coins at our feet
    As we discussed the fate of the Revolution.
    Suddenly, CIA men dressed in bikinis
    Tried to stab us with fountain pens
    But Fidel blew mustard gas through his cigar
    And immobilized the lot of them.
    Nineteen tequilas later, we had a deal:
    Havana goes back to the Mob,
    And Fidel and I open up a chain of Kentucky Fried Chicken shops.

    It is, alas, unknowable whether Mr. Was actually felt better than James Brown. How do you feel?

  • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    3 days ago

    I’m going to go out on a limb and say, Was (Not Was) did not fact-check their lyrics while writing Walk the Dinosaur. The whole song is basically an acid trip stream of barely-consciousness. One of the writers has said it was about nuclear armageddon, so there’s that.

    Elvis landed in a rocket ship
    Healed a couple of lepers and disappeared. But where was his beard?

    • fubo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      3 days ago

      One of the writers has said it was about nuclear armageddon, so there’s that.

      To be clear, it was the '80s. Everything was about nuclear Armageddon.

  • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    3 days ago

    In the 80’s you believed anything anyone told you because there was no convenient way to look it up. Oh, you want to verify it? Better take the bus across town to the library, spend 30 minutes finding 4 dinosaur books, and then 3 hours pouring through them to see if they mention when they went extinct.

    • CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      edit-2
      2 days ago

      I subscribed to all sorts of newsletters, and at least one was dinosaur specific. I would also write professors at local colleges with questions and usually get a response.

      Also worked at the library and could order just about any book available. At that point most libraries would order books if they didn’t have them already.

      But mostly newsletters and science journals until BBS became more common and user friendly when we first started having available computers.

    • If you really spent three hours pouring through them, you should’ve listened to your teacher explaining how the index works.

      As for the rest, yeah, this was true even going into the 90s before everyone had internet. No way to AskJeeves the question because mom was on the phone and she didn’t like it when you turned on the digital satanic screams while she was using it.

  • Dinosaurs still exist today, so technically they were also around 40 million years ago. I don’t think many people knew birds are dinosaurs before the internet, though, and “walk the bird” sounds a bit strange.

    • wanderer@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      2 days ago

      We’ve known that birds were descended from dinosaurs for a long time. Best I can tell, it was first proposed in the 1800’s, largely abandoned by the early 1900’s and then revived in the 1970’s. It was not new information about the lineage of birds that caused us to start saying ‘birds are dinosaurs’, but a different method of classification: Cladistics.

  • bitchkat@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 days ago

    We did not have the level of wanton ignorance and denial of evolution that we have now. Back then, I wouldn’t have believed you if you told me that half the country turned out to be so stupid.

  • loomi@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    3 days ago

    Like did we believe in dinosaurs in the 1980s? Yes. Yes we did. Was our dinosaur theory up to today’s current science, no. But we knew dinosaurs existed.

  • Today@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    3 days ago

    The difference in 40 vs 60 years is big but 4 million vs 6 million is not. For 40 million vs 60 million, most people probably didn’t notice unless they were pretty tuned into dino history.

  • HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    3 days ago

    most people knew about geological ages and the dinosaurs where in some millions of years ago but the average person did not know how many.

  • aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    3 days ago

    Try “11 miles an hour”, I think they’re right on with that one.

    But “Elvis’s Rolls Royce”, not so much.

    What other band had Ozzy and Mel Torme on the same album? And Mel sang about an accidental strangulation.