• kibiz0r@midwest.social
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    Doug Rushkoff had a talk where he called out local currency as a thing he’d like to bring back from the medieval.

    Exclusive to the community, and only valid for a short period of time, so you can’t hoard it or siphon the wealth to another community.

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    Found a blog post about it: https://archive.rushkoff.com/articles/local-money.html

    It doesn’t say anything about it being temporary, although he does mention that in his talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRWzOdUiqQE

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        I think Rushkoff’s notion was that new local currencies would be in addition to central currency. It just allows businesses to give a discount to transactions that will keep the wealth inside the community.

        It’s a neat idea, I just don’t know how you would protect it from financial services turning it into yet another abstract tradable asset that undermines the original purpose.

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      Why would someone prefer that over money that can hold value over time? When I die I don’t want my wife to have to jump through hoops.

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        Added some links to my original comment.

        It’s not instead of central currency, but in addition to it.

        The advantage is that businesses can transact with less conventional liquidity so they don’t have to rely on bank loans. This allows them to charge less to customers who use the local currency.

        In the long term, this makes money [in general – both kinds] move slightly faster within the local market, which makes the money [both kinds] more valuable [within the community]. And since the money [again, both kinds] is staying in the local market, the community’s wealth is less likely to be drained by external speculators.

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    Sorcery, alchemy, soothsaying, baby. Come one come all I’ll cure what ails you. I’ll summon portals and turn lead into #gold.

    Or maybe the town crier. Hear ye, hear ye, elon musk hast tweeted about his balls.

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      To be fair, quacks that claim to be able to do magical stuff are still around, some do quite well well for themselves even

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    A vast patchwork of incredibly different lifeways that you can flee to whenever then taxman and his goons come round.

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      Good news: take up subsistence farming, no healthcare, no electricity, and make everything yourself, and you too can have half the year “off”.

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          I mean the reality was that the time “off” was spent farming their own land, taking care of animals, fixing the house and doing the insane number of household tasks that come with premodern living. Spend a few days just cooking in a medieval style, and you’ll quickly realize it’s a LOT of work.

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            Meh,

            • They had horrible healthcare they couldn’t afford and WE have horrible healthcare we can’t afford
            • They spent a lot of time at festivals and with their communities helping each other and WE spend a lot of time chatting on our phones, but mostly playing games.
            • They spent a lot of time outdoors doing a lot of work but keeping active, and we can sometimes go for hikes or walks, but we’re Americans, we as a whole, don’t.
            • They knew how an could fix things around the farm, we can watch youtube videos unless it’s electronic or DRM.
            • They had witch hunts and misinformation and WE have witch hunts and misinformation.
            • All of the food they grew was organic but they had to grow it themselves and we have to pay an arm and a leg for non-poisoned food.
            • They spent all day working for the king and we spend all day working for billionaires.
            • They have poor starving people during famines, we have a too big percentage of poor starving people (13% of US population was food insecure during 2023).
            • They had xenophobia and WE have xenophobia.
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              When you delve into the details of what those bullet points actually entailed, they were all far far worse in medieval times.

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              All of the food they grew was organic

              Without someone inspecting the water and the soil, how safe was it? ♪♫ Hello typhoid my old friend… ♫♪

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                Except for that, yeah. We still have listeria outbreaks, etc. that kill people. It’s not like we’ve moved on from that, and that’s with all of the poisoned food to make it “safer.”

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              And gathering your own firewood, and water, and making twice as much to prepare for winter, and the strongly reduced options.

              I mean yeah, it IS fun for a bit, I do medieval reenactment, obviously I enjoy it. But doing it every day absolutely sucks.

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          Plenty of places you can do this. Put “homesteading” into a search engine of your choice and you’ll get more information on the topic than you can handle.

          You’ll also pretty quickly realize its a very hard, tedious life and we have it pretty good in many ways in the modern world.

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        So you think in order for people to not work their lives away we would have to take up subsistence farming? With all the tech and machines we have the only viable way to not be a company man is to give away all of the luxuries we currently have?

        How’s that Kool aid tasting?

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          That’s not remotely close to what I think the world SHOULD BE like.

          It is, unfortunately, what I think the world IS like.

          I’m also pointing out that if you want that aspect of the middle ages, you can have it right now by also taking all the crappy aspects of the middle ages…

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        Depending on the state and one’s farming capabilities, some people could already be halfway there! At least part of the year

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    My non-joke answer is apprenticeship. Kids could actually learn how to do a valuable job rather than graduating from high school with almost no useful skills.

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        On Sep 7, 1944, a group of American pilots was tasked with bombing a radio tower at Chichijima Island in the Pacific theater. The Japanese resistance was strong, and many American planes were shot down. Eight pilots managed to parachute to the ground safely but were caught by the Japanese.

        The Japanese military tortured them and then brutally executed them, in at least one case forcing the prisoner to dig his own grave before killing him. After the prisoners were executed, the Japanese cannibalized them, not due to lack of rations but to show “fighting spirit”.

        A ninth pilot parachuted away that day. The Japanese sent small boats out to try to capture him, but American airplanes arrived to force the Japanese boats back. The pilot was swimming in the open ocean far from any nearby ships when an American submarine suddenly breached the water in front of him and rescued him.

        That pilot then went on to become the 41st President of the United States.