Why would anyone use this over Proton Mail or the gazillion alternatives if it treats people like shit.

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    I was helping my dad with some computer stuff and I noticed Microsoft outlook online (Hotmail) has ads as well.
    My corporate outlook online doesn’t have ads.
    And my personal gsuite (paid for Gmail) doesn’t have ads.

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      Id be pretty pissed if corporate outlook started giving every employee ads.

      I share a Microsoft Office family account with my parents now so at least they aren’t getting ads in their Hotmail inbox anymore

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      It’s super easy to block the ad on outlook and get back the lost screen real estate (compared to Gmail). So I always appreciate that.

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      9 months ago

      People like to be angry at Google. I mean, fair game, I dislike them a lot myself. But yeah, it’s voicing “yeah I hate that too”, would be my interpretation.

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    Maybe I’m missing something, but hasn’t this been the case since forever?

    I mean, Google is an advertising company. I would be surprised if they didn’t serve ads in their free email service.

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    Yeah, I knew about that this year, so many ads and comparing with other alternatives it’s like… lol

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    Vouching for FairEmail. It’s by far my favourite mail client. It’s material design and very safe cause it strips out all images by default or only tracking images if you choose.

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    9 months ago

    I use protonmail, so I don’t have to see shit like that.

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    It’s only in the promotions inbox, which if Gmail is sorting correctly is just full of commercial spam anyways. Doesn’t really impact the experience for me since I rarely ever check it

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    These ads only appear in the “promotions” section of Gmail, the section that is by definition for advertising emails. It’s not great, but this is the least intrusive place to put ads.

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      Whoa, there’s remotely tech-savvy people who don’t turn off 100% of that “new” inbox sorting stuff? Color me surprised.

      That Social/Updates/Promotion shit is absolutely trash shit garbage useless. It does nothing to improve email experience. It exists to serve you ads.

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        Shit I was confused I’ve never seen this, but I assume I am have all that turned off. Still moving away from gmail though. Protonmail, mentioned by someone else, is what im using, but I think having your own domain and just having someone host the data is probably the best bet

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        9 months ago

        As someone who enjoyed Google Inbox before they killed it, it hurts to read this comment.

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          I loved Inbox. I hate everything that was supposed to replace it. Spark isn’t the worst thing in the world, but it’s not nearly as smart. Shortwave may be ok but my only IOS device isn’t set up to receive email and I haven’t bothered to try it since the Android app is new. Gmail is terrible. Outlook is Outlook.

          Inbox worked in a way that my brain immediately understood and adapted to.

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          I used Inbox too, and also liked it.

          But these gmail features aren’t remotely like inbox. They hide the emails behind alternate tabs. Ones you cannot configure yourself. With nearly no indication instead of putting them front and center (but grouped together). They make it harder to see and understand your inbox instead of easier. This post being a perfect example – tons of people didn’t even understand what was going on because of how awful the feature is.

          Inbox was killed and its main features lost with it. They were not folded into gmail.

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            What I do is I create rules with which I tag emails and auto archive them. This moves them to “folders” in a way I decide and removes them from the inbox. They all are still in the all mail tab.

            I also archive all the mail after processing it so that “clear the inbox” feeling that Inbox had is not lost.

            I still prefer Inbox to Gmail but I emulated all the features I used.

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        Are you kidding? It filters out 90% of my inbox so I don’t have to look at it, but keeps it available for me in case I want it later. It’s one of my favorite features Gmail.

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      It’s definitely getting far worse lately. It used to only be in promotions but now I’m seeing it in updates too. In promotions it’s about 1 ad to every 2-3 emails now when it used to be 1-2 at the top and that’s it

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      Not saying its new. Just was surprised. They probably don’t make much from it. Why put it in for a couple pennies (on a corporate level). I didn’t think they were that greedy. I honestly hadn’t seen this before because I rarely use gmail and have never used the promotions tab.

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        A couple of pennies time a Billion users is a lot of pennies.

        It is probably way less than a penny per user per day.

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            I don’t even know if this is true, but I’d love to know more.

            Maybe we’re worth £4 a month, but they just decided to pull a higher price out of their ass to dissuade everyone from paying.

            I suspect the small amount of people who decide to pay will cost more in infrastructure, and causes more headaches to meta anyway.

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            No we didn’t. We learned they were required to offer an ‘ad tracking free’ experience and that they priced it at $15/month. As that experience only exists as a result of a law suit - we have no idea what a user is worth.

            Because they were limited by what they could charge to ‘sounds reasonable’ and ‘unlikely to cause further lawsuits’