• cqst@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    US democrats are the largest and most successful left party in the world. Our large two party system obfuscates the underlying factionalism within the political parties (progressive cacucus, justice democrats, blue dogs, New Democrat Caucus) kind of reveals this inherent disagreement within our political parties, where members of the progressive caucus and justice democrats can be pretty clearly seen as on the political left.

    In the US, social liberalism and political freedom is generally much more popular, as compared to Europe, and seen as being associated with the political left. There is no major socialist political group in the United States, and usually people who claim that there is “no left wing party in the US” want an actual Socialist party, but there are very few examples of successful socialist parties in Western Democracies and tend to be consigned to either being permanent opposition, or forcing themselves to liberalize to the point of not being socialist anymore (think SPD in Germany and Labour in the UK).

    I am thankful that the US democrats focus so strongly on issues of social liberalism, think, immigration, abortion, LGBTQ rights, where in Europe these issues are much more controversial especially on issues of abortion and immigration.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Europe#Abortion_laws_by_jurisdiction

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      This is pretty much propaganda. Left political parties do OK in Europe. The point of this post hides the fact that the Dems are not actually Left, they are just Left of the GOP. This isn’t necessarily a criticism, the base voter in the US is right leaning. The Dems just work with what they’ve got, but that doesn’t make them a party of the Left.

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          There’s a strong part of the European population as a whole who is left leaning but at the same time the EU is a trade union which is center right I’d say

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      Dems world be one of the right parties in just about any other county.

      They’re also currently pushing far right immigration policies and have ignored doing anything to put abortion rights into law.

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        The Dems are more like 4 political parties pretending to be just one. The dems would be split up in any other country.

        have ignored doing anything to put abortion rights into law. But also Democrats have enshrined abortion rights into law at the state level. We are a rather large country.

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          Majority of what would be broken up would still be on the right.

          Pointless when they needed to do it nationally, just like with leaving health insurance expansion to states

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            4 months ago

            Leaving health insurance expansion to the states was because of the Supreme Court, not the Democrats. Specifically medicaid expansion with the ACA I assume you are talking about?

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      It’s as if collapsing politics into one dimension makes it hard to identify distinctions

      Liberalism includes the right of private property, which is definitionally at odds with leftist thought. Points for social liberalism I guess, but when social goals are viewed through the narrow lens of individuality it misses giant, glaring social structures that arguably have more impact over individual liberty than state governance does.

      “most successful left party in the world” is a contemptible assertion.