• deafboy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    581·
    2 months ago

    I HATE to put on a tinfoil hat, but this is the best thing that could have happened to the ruling party. They are already in the middle of dismantling the media and justice. This will accelerate the process.

    • illi@lemm.eeEnglish
      27·
      2 months ago

      My exact thoughts. They are already using it to atack on oposition and press, fanning the flmes. If this was false flag attack, they would not act differently. Not saying it is. But it smells.

      Either way situation in Slovakia will get a whole lot worse.

        • illi@lemm.eeEnglish
          10·
          2 months ago

          Not if he survives. Either way they would get a martyr. It would be brazen tactic for sure. Could be a 3rd party, but alligned with them because they would know this would escalate things here and nudge Slovakia strongly to in the direction it was heading already.

          But yes, I understand I should get at least trpple-layered tin foil hat for this.

          • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
            2·
            2 months ago

            that’s a load bearing if, and if that was doing of someone else in his party, then they’d need to do all that organizing and such, all covertly. or maybe it’s italian mafia coming back for their debts, or some random dude

            • illi@lemm.eeEnglish
              3·
              2 months ago

              Oh yeah, totally. Can’t disagree.

              In the end it honestly doesn’t matter that much. The flames of emotions are already fanned, oposition and press already blamed.

              I have no love for Fico but this is a terrible event no mattet what.

      • illi@lemm.eeEnglish
        91·
        2 months ago

        There are other people in his government who can take over. Easy to rally behind a martyr.

        Also he will greatly benefit if he lives, as per the OP edit he is stabilized. Edit: no idea what the source on that is, did notfind this info anywhere

        • BakerBagel@midwest.socialEnglish
          5·
          2 months ago

          Depends. Some figures like MLK Jr, sure. Others like Hitler or Trump can’t be replaced because the entire movement is a personality cult based on them. I’m not familiar with Slovakian politics, so I can’t say what would uave happened of he had been killed.

          • illi@lemm.eeEnglish
            3·
            2 months ago

            He is a promiment politician (this is his fourth term as Prime Minister) and very popular in the pro-Russian crowd (he is PM for a reason), but I’d not say he has such cult following.

            That might change now though.

        • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          1·
          2 months ago

          i’ve seen report that he has internal bleeding in abdomen that couldn’t be stopped for 3h, so kinda, sorta this starts looking bleak. we’ll see, for now slovak media is embargoed on this issue

          • illi@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            2 months ago

            Not looking good, no. Even from the little info we have it is quite clear this was not false flag operation (if it was this would be next level conspiracy shit, Occam’s razor needs to be applied). It was always a stretch.

            Why would anyone who is against Fico want to do this is beyond me. This act will makenthe situation much worse, some people in the governemnt and ruling parties are not exactly sane and some of them have bloody eyes. Whatever shit they did until now will be tame compared to what is ahead.

    • Siegfried@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      2 months ago

      Tinfoil for what? It is going to benefit a lot the ruling party… Unless you mean that he planned this. Governments plan fake assassination attempts, this one doesn’t look like one.

  • plactagonic@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    31·
    2 months ago

    I am not surprised, they (ruling party) bank on polarizing people, attacking journalists and populism/prorussian reathorics.

    I just listened to their press conference and they just pour gasoline on this situation. Like I nearly vomited hearing the accusations of journalists, opposition parties…

  • illi@lemm.eeEnglish
    14·
    2 months ago

    Don’t want to be a conspircy theorist but this smells of an attempt to make him a martyr (false flag or done unwillingly by some 3rd party) to justify iron grip and even stronger attacks on democratic principles. There are also allegations he worked with mafia, so might be that too.

    But even if I was wrong, it doesn’t matter as they act just the same - already blaming oposition and the press for it.

    We should also take into consideration that if I remember correctly, he or other government official already warned of this happening.

    Either way, the fact this would happen in Slovakia is honestly terrifying.

  • illi@lemm.eeEnglish
    11·
    2 months ago

    The update is bulshit OP. Last official update I’ve seen is from 2 hours ago and he was still in surgery nd in life threatening condition. You put out that “update” long before that

    • zabadoh@ani.socialEnglish
      29·
      2 months ago

      Actually Fico ran on the pledge to stop Slovakian military aid to Ukraine.

      “Populist” means far right Russian stooge these days.

      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66972984

      “If (Fico’s party) Smer enters government, we will not send a single round of ammunition to Ukraine,” (Fico) recently told supporters. (Before the election, which Smer won)

      • MelastSB@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        9·
        2 months ago

        So anyone can be behind that assassination attempt, even pro-Russians as a false flag. Poor fucker shouldn’t have taken the money

    • circuscritic@lemmy.caEnglish
      7·
      2 months ago

      Zero…his electoral platform was basically “stop helping Ukraine”.

      There’s no upside for an independent Russian resident of Slovakia to be a provocateur and potentially kill their ally, and nothing would reinvigorate weakening Western support for Ukraine than the Russian state attempting to assassinate a European head of state.

    • Beaver @lemmy.caEnglish
      4·
      2 months ago

      That is a possibility as a Russian would not care much for Slovakia and try to break unity in the west.

    • RubberDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
      46·
      2 months ago

      My first thought too. Putin is cleaning house internally. And this can just be a good move with fico not being loyal enough so you martyr him and get an even more usefull idiot in his place.

    • illi@lemm.eeEnglish
      142·
      2 months ago

      I have no love for Fico but this is not the way. This will slide Slovakia towards more to the far right - and more quickly. This is also just before EU elections and the ruling parties will absolutely use this (they already are).

    • deafboy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      15·
      2 months ago

      I wouldn’t say he’s a fascist. He only ever presents what the majority of the voters wants to hear.

      Every time the party needs a new demographic on board, he either changes the rethoric, or, if it’s a taboo topic, allies himselves with people not afraid of breaking that taboo.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
    4·
    2 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    BRATISLAVA, Slovakia (AP) — Media reports say Slovakia’s populist Prime Minister Robert Fico was injured in a shooting and taken to hospital.

    The incident took place in the town of Handlova, some 150 kilometers northeast of the capital, according to the news television station TA3.

    A suspect has been detained, it said.

    The original article contains 52 words, the summary contains 52 words. Saved 0%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

    • Nurse_Robot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      81·
      2 months ago

      There should be a safeguard to prevent this bot from posting entire articles, it defeats the purpose