• Tryptaminev@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Well people could unite behind an actually progressive party. And that would give them the momentum to surpass the Dems and kick them out of the two party system. You are again gaslighting yourself to go back to your abusive spouse, saying it is better to have some partner, even if the beats and betrays you and has repeatedly shown to not get better except for some small tokens he tosses towards you.

    The Dems are deeply entrenched in being a far right neoliberal party. They could have given Bernie a chance, they could have worked to build up new talent after 2016 that is not the face of American corpocracy. Instead they chose the guy that is representing all of this to the maximum. Trump went on an anti establishment claim. What did the Dems but against him? Maximum establishment with CLinton and now Biden. And oh surprise it is not working well.

    Again it is the DNC that want Trump over wanting to stop a genocide. It is the DNC that want Trump over providing universal healthcare. It is the DNC that want Trump over fully reforming student loans. It is the DNC that want Trump over not building the Trump wall, over not putting small children in internment camps at the border, from where thousands disappear into child trafficking and over not closing fucking Guantanamo Bay, like Obama promised in 2007-2015.

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      2 months ago

      If you want a progressive party your best bet is morphing the DNC into one. Look at the RNC right now, they changed the party starting from a grass roots movement. The change is shite but that’s how they did it. They also had lots and lots of funding from outside sources (see: murdoch)

      End the day, you want a progressive party you have to change the face of the democratic party. How do you do that, you take over government on a local and state level and then you pursue the executive branch. Don’t believe me ask the 1000000 3rd party’s that have come and gone being jam fisted in place to serve as a spoiler then forgotten about.

      Could do so much more if we changed the way we voted. Fptp has to go.

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      2 months ago

      No… You and I and many of these protesters and yes, a lot of people could unite under an actual progressive. That doesn’t mean they could actually unite enough people to win a modern presidential race and even if they did it doesn’t mean they’d be able to get what we want done. Politics is strategic and is ALWAYS going to be about finding the common ground that is the better option, not the perfect option, and that option is never, ever going to be a black and white “not evil” option.

      Every chance you get vote for our left wing populist candidates and other progressives, by all means. And protest and cause a fuss to move the window as much as you’re able. But when it comes to final votes, be strategic or be irrelevant and impotent.