Nikki Haley vows to abolish anonymous social media accounts: ‘It’s a national security threat’::WPDE covers news, sports, weather, and local events in and around the Grand Strand, Pee Dee, and the Border Belt.
But she’s fine with continuing the anonymous donations to all the PACs that fund her.
But that’s different you see. Because money is speech and therefore needs to be protected, including by allowing total anonymity of donors. Whereas we’re talking about online accounts, where people of course never engage in speech or express ideas. Hey, wait a second that can’t be right. Hmmm, okay maybe it’s because she’s saying it’s a security risk, because you don’t know if they’re a foreign national spreading propaganda online. This is totally different from political donations, which of course have never been bribes from foreign powers masked by anonymity… Hey wait! She got us again. Almost like she’s some kind of shill who wipes her butt with the constitution while trying to create a crony supported facist state. No that can’t be.
But yeah, according to Republicans, money is speech, but speech is not speech. I’m expecting their next campaign platform to be 2+2=5.
How could speech be speech? Money is speech.
Republicans really hate privacy don’t they. In 20 years theyre gonna ban bathroom doors so they can make sure the “right” people are in the “right” bathrooms.
We really aren’t that far removed from codified segregation. I have parents, who grew up in the NE US, not even in the South, and they remember living with segregation. Separate bathrooms, separate water fountains, different entrances (if people of color were allowed in the establishment at all), etc etc
And they’re really not that old. Go ask your parents (or grandparents if you’re a little younger. Or both).
I agree with Nimarata Hailey, everyone should use their real names in social media and everywhere
Ohhh the irony
Hey, you never know, maybe their real name is Meridian Longitude. I’ve never heard of Longitude as a last name but I wouldn’t put it past some parents to name their kid Meridian.
lol that was sarcasm. I’m not putting my real name on lemmy but I do think it’s funny she doesn’t use her real name either because her maga supporters would go nuts
I looked it up, and it’s actually spelled Nimrata. Which is funny, because it sounds like it would be a romantic language’s feminine form of nimrod.
That could be close to the actual etymology. I believe “Nimrod” is the name of a person in the Bible.
Nimrod is a biblical figure mentioned in the Book of Genesis and Books of Chronicles. The son of Cush and therefore a great-grandson of Noah, Nimrod was described as a king in the land of Shinar. The Bible states that he was “a mighty hunter before the Lord [and]… began to be mighty in the earth”.
Some funny trivia with “might hunter”: Bugs Bunny called Elmer Fudd nimrod, saying something like “nice shot, nimrod!” – the insult was that Elmer was a bad hunter. But the obscure reference was lost on most people, much less a child audience (myself included), and so nimrod became a generic insult akin to “idiot” or "imbecile.
Maybe I’ve been playing too much Dwarf Fortress lately, but that quote reads so much like something you’d read in Legends mode lol
I would love to see how the Trump base would try to pronounce her real name.
Such a move would lead to an increase in “civility,” Haley believes. “When they know their pastor, their family members can see it, it’s going to help our kids and it’s going to help our country," she said.
That’s what everyone said about posting next to your real name on Facebook. How did that turn out?
Pretty good, actually. It was nice of the traitors to upload pictures of themselves in the act on Jan 6.
I don’t have a pastor 😎
their pastor
Aren’t they obliged to confess their sins to those anyway? Not that having that obligation stopped many from doing bad things anyway.
A pastor usually leads a Protestant church. Catholic churches are led by priests.
Confession of sins to (God though) a priest is a rite in the Catholic church, but not in Protestant churches. Protestant churches often encourage members to ask forgiveness for their sins directly to God through prayer.
There are more Catholics than protestants in the world, but there are more protestants than Catholics in the U.S. The type of Christianity most often associated with socially conservative Republican/MAGA primary voters is Protestant “evangelical” Christianity.
Evangelicals are a hardcore subset of Protestants who take the Bible literally. They’re sometimes called “Born-again Christians” because of their belief in the importance of personal conversion. That is, you’re not really a real Christian until, as an autonomous adult, you willingly choose to surrender yourself, mind body and soul, and devote your life to (your pastor’s teachings about) the teachings of Jesus.
Anyway, now I’ve done an eight-hours-later four-paragraph TED-talk riff on what is otherwise quite a fine and clever comment. I mean no offense and hope none is taken. I mostly just wanted to note that when Nikki Haley talks about “pastors,” she isn’t talking to Catholics; she’s talking directly to the GOP evangelical voter base.
Cheers for the insight, I didn’t pick up on that difference, thought I would’ve known in my own vernacular.
I always admire the tenacity for a detailed in depth explanation, it bellies a passion for sharing knowledge.
Well she’s right. But I don’t think anyone has an obligation to be “civil”. Posting anonymously is exactly what allows me to have honest discussions without fear of backlash from family and friends. For better or worse.
It’s telling that pastors are the first people she wants to see what people are saying. Got to keep those sinners in line.
Civility is code for “stop complaining about how we treat you”. Jesse Gender has a pretty good video about civility politics (2hrs 21mins): https://youtu.be/-1TL9id26Ec
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Yes yes think of the children how can we not when it’s all you ever talk about
Ah yes, one step closer to a totalitarian state. Let’s go.
Fortunately it’s just empty, laughable rhetoric designed for Faceboomers who don’t understand the internet.
I pull uuuuuup
How will she round up all the minorities if they’re anonymous online?
She IS a minority.
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This is some 00s level politicians not understanding how the Internet works.
Terrible idea. Look, the nerds set up the internet and from the beginning never used their real names. There’s a reason for that.
So if these genius’ knew better, Hayley should learn from that.
“I’m an internet Originalist. What did the founding nerds think? That’s all that matters.”
I enjoy this take quite a lot and will be using it myself.
As long as you take the metaphor to its natural end. That is, to only apply that test when it’s convenient for you. Otherwise, ignore it completely.
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The dumb part is this vow doesn’t even make sense on the face of it to protect national security.
National security is now anyone’s feelings about mean things.
Republican feelings. About anything really.
What insecure nation
The gop is a national security threat
The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.
So how is she going to make them non-anonymous in a way that businesses can properly verify identity? Does every single social media site need to have its own ID analysis system for every state-ID? I mean that seems like it would be ridiculously hard.
For that to be practical, they’d need something nation-wide, and probably digital.
So, does she want to suggest to her fanbase a national digital ID? How would htat go?
To be fair, we all already use a national id with the social security numbers.
So pretty simply, the government would set up a SS number verification API, tech companies would call that, and use it to verify who you are.
It’s a terrible idea and I hate it, but that’s probably how it would work.
Except SS is a terrible form of authentication that is compromised already by the credit-reporting agencies for a significant fraction of American citizens.
Specifically by Equifax.
Great so only us citizens can use the internet?
What if they ban you from the internet? Should that even be possible if you’re not breaking the law?
This seems like the most anti American fascist thing I’ve heard in a while and that really says something.
Fuck that. We need to move away from using SSN for literally every-fucking-thing
It’s funny because the SS card explicitly states it shouldn’t be used for identification purposes.
Yes. I’m wondering if the identity would need to be verified and known/published to the social media site, or just verified to confirm not some Russian disinformation troll. Is there a way to use tokens, or hashes to allow a website to confirm if multiple accounts are the same user without knowing who the users are. I hate this all too, but if it had to be done maybe there’s a way to still protect some anonymity but allow verification.
An ID card, with a tattoo of a QR code for scanning. Christians will love that. Something something mark, something something beast. Haha
It wouldn’t be difficult. Online age verification systems already exist for stuff like vaping supplies.
In some countries this would be dead simple; look at the nordics, where there are government supported, nationwide systems that verifies identity (you have to physically show up with your passport to collect your set up log in details).
I’d be quite happy if social media offered a way to link your identity in this way, but it’s quite a stretch to mandate it.
So, she really wants to just tank her own campaign, huh?
lol I’d love to see how the US Government would be able to enforce such a thing.
Narrator: “They couldn’t”
Agree with her views on algorithm transparency, however abolishing anonymous accounts won’t improve the situation around misinformation.
Facebook has required your real name for a long time, and it still resorted into people dissecting into echo chambers supporting their views points.
Yes, anonymous accounts allow people to hide behind a mask, but a lot of people spreading misinformation aren’t afraid of being humiliated or ridiculed. It even helps spread it faster (celebrities, influencers, etc) in a lot of situations.
