Donald Trump’s campaign spokesman defended Trump using “vermin” to describe his enemies, while historians compared his language to Hitler, Mousselini.

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      Also don’t forget to mention it at every opportunity. The rapist Donald Trump must be called exactly that so people don’t forget we’re talking about a convicted rapist who for some reason is not a registered sex offender which, of course, doesn’t mean he’s any less of a rapist, which Donald Trump verifiably is.

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        He’s not a convicted rapist. It was a civil trial, not a criminal one. The trial decided that he did sexually assault E. Jean Carroll (but not legally rape, although the judge said it was rape despite the legal definition) but that resulted in a ruling for damages. The statute of limitations for a criminal trial had passed.

        So he’s not a convicted rapist, but the judge at his civil trial involving rape said he was a rapist. But that’s why he isn’t a registered sex offender.

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            No problem. I wish he had been convicted obviously. And I seriously doubt that is anywhere near the only time he’s raped a woman. But like so many other things in his life, he’s gotten away with it.

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            A jury if his peers still found that Trump was a rapist. The judge in that trial clarified that the jury finding meant that Trump was a rapist.

            This was after the Trump camp claimed, after losing the defamation suit, that none of this meant that Trump was a rapist.

            So the judge explicitly clarified that the jury had found that Trump had committed rape.

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              Found that he was more likely a rapist, not a rapist beyond a reasonable doubt.

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                Trump was found to be a rapist by a jury because he used his fingers to sexually assault and violate a woman. The judge clarified that Trump raped Jean carroll.

                Those conclusions are beyond reasonable doubt.

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                  Those conclusions are beyond reasonable doubt.

                  No that’s literally not what they found, because it was not a criminal trial. That wasn’t the burden of proof. He may be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but a civil court is not legally capable of proving that.

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          The problem is that calling it sexual assault doesn’t make it clear that he penetrated her with his penis without consent. The only reason it’s not “rape” is that it wasn’t a criminal trial.

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            The reason it’s not considered rape is because it didn’t fit New York state’s archaic legal definition of rape.

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    This is a referendum of our society. If you vote for this shit stain, and he loses, you should leave the country. Go to Russia, traitors.

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      No no that’s only the rule for us.

      My fucking uncle, who is normally a really nice person, had in his retirement party a big poster of Trump with “If you cant respect the president then get out of America.”

      Now it’s “fuck Biden.” Rules for thee and not for me is the Republican way.

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        One of my neighbors had a wifi network named “Donald Trump is your President!!!”

        After the 2020 election I created one named “Joe Biden is your President!!!” and put it on my external access point and boosted the power to maximum.

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    Of course they did would anyone expect different? He’s a fascist and knows he can get away with it. Backing down would be worse PR for him he isn’t trying to please the kind of people who take offense to dehumanizing minorities.

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      The difference is that Trump has an (increasingly literal) army of thugs ready and raring to inflict violence on us “vermin,” and you don’t. Trump is not just “calling [people] names;” he’s making credible threats.

      Anybody who tries to minimize this with false equivalences is either dangerously naive or spreading disinformation.

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        I’m all for his REAL supporters proving it by getting TRUMP or MAGA tattooed on their foreheads. Problem with red hats is you can take them off.

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        The “both sides” people would have less to bang on about if Biden weren’t such a poor candidate and the Democrats weren’t such a poor alternative. Trump is a dogshit sandwich and Biden is merely a rabbit shit sandwich. Undoubtedly, Biden will do less long term damage to Americans (Palestinians… probably more than Trump) but I think you should be holding out for a candidate and a Party that won’t make you any kind of shit.

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          The poster pointed out that you have nothing and just say “both sides” and your response is an empty analogy repeating your “both sides” stupidity. Lol

          And your analogy is way off. Biden is dry toast made from wonder bread. It’s not very nutritious and if you eat it long enough you might develop some kind of health issues long down the road. If you eat a shit sandwich you could catch a disease that can kill you.

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            Biden is dry toast made from wonder bread.

            Oh yah, that’s sold it to me. If you’re wondering where my allegiances lie, I’m a UK citizen living in London. Even the Labour Party here is to the right of me. The Democrats would never accept most of the Parliamentary Labour Party as members because centre-left here equals ‘undemocratically communist’ there. We’ve had universal healthcare since the 1940s and the Democrats still haven’t been able to implement it three quarters of a century later. Why is that? Because the Democrats are just as enthralled by your cult of greed as the republicans are. Yes, the Republicans are worse in that since the Tea Party incursion they are batshit unhinged but it still doesn’t make the Democrats a good choice.

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              You think by calling Biden dry toast that isn’t very nutritious is arguing that democrats are good? Lol

              With that level of critical thought, it’s no wonder you’re defending equating the two sides.

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                Yeah, what I’m not doing is saying that both sides are equally as bad. That would be a false equivalence. I am pointing out that there would be a lot less room for people to make that false equivalence if one side were actually much better than the other rather than “less bad”.

                But you carry on with your centrist nonsense, with any luck the dry toast is going to beat the fascist rapist because your fellow Americans will elect to eat the rabbit shit sandwich.

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                  You called them both shit sandwiches, just one has less shit in it.

                  Maybe you could have made that argument pre-trump - but even that would be a stretch even if we can’t get everything we want from Democrats - but now that republicans have been completely captured by trump,who is all but completely openly being fascist, it just makes zero sense.

                  “One side literally tried to violently overturn an election they lost, and now their leader is openly using Nazi talking points and threatening the other side. But democrats have failed to pass universal health care, so those people calling them both shit sandwiches do have a point.”

                  It’s mind-numbingly dumb.

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                  The issue here and the flaw in your reasoning is that you’re defending Trump by saying “DeMs ArE BaD ToO”. Trump doesn’t deserve defending. Quit peddling the dems are bad too bullshit. No matter how much or little he’s done in his term for the US or any other country, Biden is without a doubt a better choice than fascist, rapist, state secrets selling, man-baby Trump. We all know the two party system sucks. We all know dems aren’t perfect. The point is anyone on the left is better than the scumbag known as Donald Trump, so drop the wannabe centrist bullshit.

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            You’re very welcome. When you getting free universal healthcare? Biden doing that next term is he? But he’s going to stop the shelling of Gaza though?

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Donald Trump‘s campaign is defending the former president’s use of the word “vermin” to describe his opponents and detractors after receiving backlash for echoing a term used by brutal authoritarian dictators like Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini.

    “We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections,” Trump said in a Veterans Day speech on Saturday after using the term in a social media post earlier that same day.

    Because if you have a capable, competent, smart, tough leader, Russia, China, North Korea, they’re not going to want to play with us.”

    The speech prompted reactions from historians, including John Meacham, who said Monday on MSNBC’s Morning Joe that Trump is “lifting” rhetoric from Mussolini and other historic fascists.

    “On a weekend when most Americans were honoring our nation’s heroes, Donald Trump parroted the autocratic language of Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini — two dictators many U.S. veterans gave their lives fighting,” Biden-Harris spokesperson Ammar Moussa said in a statement.

    In a post to Truth Social on Monday, he wrote that those involved in the prosecution of his legal cases — namely Special Counsel Jack Smith, former special counsel prosecutor Andrew Weissmann, and Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco — “will end up in a Mental Institution by the time my next term as President is successfully completed.”


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    Wow, straight to “And if I did, you deserved it.”

    We’re on the fast track now, boys.

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    I’m so tired of this POS getting attention again. And I’m not even American. The amount of stress he causes me… Please let this end…

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      especially lately I havnt even seen a picture he doesn’t look like a hateful angry maniac. how can someone like that be.considered for leadership. insane

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    It’s so wild to me that the Trump experiment has gone on as long as it has. He’s broken politics in this country. The GOP at least will never be the same. We let a rich yuppie real estate guy from New York city completely monopolize political power. As much as I can’t stand the guy, I have to accept that almost half the country sees something else entirely. He speaks to something that people are desperate for in this country, Democrats would do well to figure out why that is instead of dismissing this guy like they have done.

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      That is because you defended free speech for Nazis and shot down any talk of reversing the Telecommunications Act or regulating their fascist talk shows. Way to preserve democracy there, folks