• Obi@sopuli.xyz
      6·
      10 months ago

      I was gonna say Netherlands as that’s the kind of shit I expect from Dutch architects, but upon further inspection, Germany?

      • Zerush@lemmy.ml
        6·
        10 months ago

        Austria, Museum of Modern Art in Vienna. I have no information about the substances or medications the architect has taken.

        Well, meanwhile in Canada…

  • hackris@lemmy.ml
    10·
    10 months ago

    Ahhh yes. In capitalism, if you create a machine that can replace say, 10 people, you don’t give them 1/10 of the work. You fire them and maybe hire someone to operate it.

    Machines and human workers can coexist. They don’t have to replace them.

    • Kedly@lemm.ee
      6·
      10 months ago

      Yeah, we arent going to get our Jetsons future if we refuse to restructure our society towards not having to work instead of just fighting the tech because its taking our jobs away

      • interolivary@beehaw.org
        5·
        10 months ago

        They should replace workers and people should deserve to live without being workers, but it should also be painfully obvious that our current economic system won’t support this idea, and won’t until we do some pretty drastic things.

        It’s not that we couldn’t build a post-scarcity society probably even right now given some pretty radical adjustment of resource allocations, we just don’t want to build one – “we” being the 0.01% that have such insane amounts of wealth that they’ve essentially taken over the whole economic system, largely thanks to eg. dumb fucks like Reagan and sociopathic fucks like Thatcher and the people who idolize them buying into the idea that they too can be that rich because the wealth will somehow magically trickle down.

        • AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social
          2·
          10 months ago

          That would be the mentality I’m talking about us needing to kill. Regardless, AI will help with this problem, in both it being inevitable that it will provide people with more free time (due to efficiencies or unemployment) - which is needed to be able to effectively revolt - and it will help address the issues of transforming our economic model, as the machines will have a much better way of distributing goods and services. Also capitalism needs workers to have money so that they can buy the products they produce, which should at some point necessitate a universal basic income, which will further help erode the work = money paradigm.

          • interolivary@beehaw.org
            1·
            10 months ago

            If you think this current brand of capitalism requires plebs to have money, I’m not sure how you explain the fact that when taking inflation into account wages have been either stagnant or actually going down ever since the 70’s / 80’s, the amount of wealth owned by the same plebs compared to the “financial ruling class” (mainly executives and such, and especially the banking sector thanks to deregulation) has shrunk dramatically, and cost of living keeps getting higher, while at the same time the compensation for the “financial ruling class” has grown at a frankly exponential rate.

            Sufficiently advanced AI will, if anything, make it even more likely that that “ruling class” will realize they don’t need quite as many of us around because all we do us suck up their resources and complain how we haven’t eaten anything but cup noodles in a week and our teeth hurt.

      • herzberd@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        3·
        10 months ago

        I wish the bar was at living comfortably. As it stands it feels like the average person doesn’t think non-workers deserve to live :/

      • hackris@lemmy.ml
        1·
        10 months ago

        Of course, the end goal (mind the word “end”) is to replace them. However, in this current situation, where many people are struggling to find a job, it’s not good.

  • Obinice@lemmy.world
    82·
    10 months ago

    Within my lifetime we will see a significant chunk of building site labour be replaced by robots.

    Let’s not forget this isn’t unprecedented - plenty of jobs went away with we introduced the last big technological innovation, heavy machinery, to the building site. Suddenly one guy in a JCB can do the work of 20 guys with spades, etc.

    I’m not talking about replacing everyone, not within my lifetime, that’s likely silly unless there’s a technological leap we can’t yet predict.

    But the simpler the labour, the more likely it’ll go, and not every site job is specialised enough that it can’t be replaced by a well trained, well developed AI system in the year 2050 built into a similarly well developed body -which exist today, are already dropping in price due to refinements and ramping up production, and by then will be as competitively priced as the cost of a human.

    This is a good thing though, capitalist politics aside. The more jobs we can replace, especially hard on the body, unhealthy, often very dangerous jobs like construction, the better. Assuming we can evolve society away from our capitalist overlords and into a society that works for the people.

    Anyhoo, I wouldn’t rush to retrain in another sector just yet if you’re a brickie, but if you’re just getting in to the biz, keep your options open for sure.

    If you’re a lorry driver and you’re young? Spend some of your spare time retraining for a new career now, because while lorry drivers will still be needed in 30 years time before you’re set to retire, the vast majority of the work will be automated, and driver jobs will be extremely scarce compared to the large number of workers trying to get them.

    Like the coal miners of yesteryear, you don’t want to wait until it’s far too late to retrain and then complain that your career is ruined. Prepare now.

    Best case scenario? Your main job never goes away, but now your skill set is diversified and you’ve always got options. Worst case? Your main job does, and you luckily can fall back on your alternative options.

    • spudwart@spudwart.comEnglish
      42·
      10 months ago

      They would love to replace the Working Class with an unpaid AI.

      The irony being when they replace people with AI, they will live alone, on a doomed planet where there’s not even enough of humanity left to avoid extinction.

      There they will sit, upon a throne of skulls, in an autonomous world that will outlive them, and only to serve a species that no-longer exists.

    • Chef_Boyardee@lemm.ee
      11·
      10 months ago

      As a construction worker, I disagree. Construction sites are so cluttered, so tough to navigate, and there are so many unknown variables. I really think cars driving themselves will happen before construction workers are replaced. And personally I feel we are a long ways away before cars are driving themselves to begin with.

  • M500@lemmy.mlEnglish
    71·
    10 months ago

    Just wait until someone connect chatgpt to one of those gigantic 3d printers that print buildings.

    Are we really that far from having “AI” do this?

    • Khotetsu@lib.lgbtEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      Unfortunately, those building 3D printers are mostly just a publicity stunt currently. Too impractical to use at any sort of scale.

      Now, if we were to combine AI with the old Sears kit homes, we might be onto something. Given a standardized list of stuff like room dimensions and the materials required for their construction, AI could probably generate an endless number of variations of both houses and additions for them with an exact list of required construction materials and equipment. Entire series of standardized houses with all the materials prepped ahead of time, ready to just be delivered to a plot of land and constructed on site by a local construction companies, with only minor adjustments required to account for the specific peculiarities of the area. The IKEA of house construction.

    • SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      Not so much of the physical building, but I bet the designing isn’t too big of a stretch. Think something like procedural generation to make like 2/3 of a floor plan and have humans make sure it makes sense and add details.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      6·
      10 months ago

      Like so many dystopian stories, the real life version that eventually comes about is more cringe and shitty.

      Compare a decades ago EvilMegaCorp as presented in fiction to the Steve Jobs-emulating ukulele-strumming hellworld corporations burning the planet down around us while trying to seem insincerely quirky about it.

      Ultor in Red Faction was evil and all that, but imagine if Ultor was Le Epic X and all of its maneuvers were narrated by an aging very divorced apartheid dad. my-hero

  • Blapoo@lemmy.ml
    4·
    10 months ago

    I take it you haven’t seen the recent advancements in both robotics and LLM powered agents

    • NaibofTabr@infosec.pubEnglish
      5·
      10 months ago

      Sort of… we can 3D print walls out of specific concrete blends that run nicely through an extended hose system that runs from the mud pump to the print nozzle. But, concrete has a limited time as mud before it starts to harden, so you can only print for so many hours before you have to stop and flush out the pump and hoses before it turns into rock, and the concrete mix can’t be too chunky (like including gravel) to flow through the system.

      Also, if you get all that right, then you can print walls… but not structural frames that would support a multistory building, or plumbing or electrical wiring or insulation or windows or roofs…

      We’re a long way from 3D printing a building wholesale.

  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
    33·
    10 months ago

    Wow, what a stupid construction company (if they are the ones behind this.) AI will come for manual labor in a way that makes what’s happening right now look unimpactful. And what’s going on right now is very fucked up.