Don’t fall into the trap of ‘picking sides’ over Gaza: Hamas’s attacks were unconscionable, razing Gaza to the ground would be abhorrent. In both cases, basic humanity is at stake --- [Opinion] - Feddit
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  • leetnewb@beehaw.org
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    11 months ago

    You can point out back and forth violence going into the 1800s. Nobody has clean hands in this conflict.

    • FIash Mob #5678@beehaw.org
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      11 months ago

      Yeah, but siding with Israel here is the logical equivalent of siding with Andrew Jackson and supporting the Indian Removal Act as he committed genocide against the native people.

      The power imbalance and how Israel has used it is what makes it imperative that Israel be held accountable by the international community.

      • knokelmaat@beehaw.org
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        11 months ago

        I’m glad you bring up the power imbalance. The “both sides have been doing horrible stuff” only works if both sides have equal footing, which they clearly do not. This does not negate the crimes commited by Hamas, but extremism doesn’t come from nowhere and Israël has a responsibility in that.

    • onkyo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      11 months ago

      Except jews, christians and muslims lived pretty much peacefully together during ottoman rule. The violence worsened when britian controlled palestine and then became a lot worse during the nakba and israeli occupation. It’s not about ‘having clean hands’. It’s about stopping genocide and understanding that occupation and colonialism leads to violent pushback. It always has and always will.

    • blazera@kbin.social
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      11 months ago

      Mostly it goes back to the 1940’s. There was more history of Zionism beforehand, Jewish settlers gradually coming in to live in the holy land. But after WW2 was the large influx and big push for a Jewish ethnostate. Aaand the people living there already opposed it from the start. And since then it’s been very apparent why, because Israel pushes beyond the borders they were already given from Palestinian land, and militarily occupy the Palestinian land they dont yet claim.

      • sqgl@beehaw.org
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        11 months ago

        It was Arabs who did not accept those borders. They lost and Israel expanded.

        What I have more of a problem with is the settlers in the WB and that seems to be Bibi’s doing without much pushback from USA. Fascists gonna fasche.