• Mars@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    10 months ago

    Are they? Because unless you live in some green energy paradise, most EV are charged using coal plants.

    • CurtAdams@urbanists.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      10 months ago

      @Mars @wrinkletip Hello, what century are you living in? The US gets only 20% of its electricity from coal and dropping fast. In CA it’s 0%.

      Aside from that, EVs are so much more energy efficient that an EV using electricity from a coal plant still produces less CO2 than an ICE car.

      • The_Sasswagon@beehaw.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        10 months ago

        Not op, but the material gathering and building of EVs is far more energy intensive and resource intensive than gas cars. They do even out but it takes a number of years on the road depending on the vehicle.

        Additionally they are very heavy which requires more infrastructure maintenance and therefore more emissions.

        That is to say EVs are not a sure fire improvement and it depends on the car, the place you are, the supply chain producing your car, where it’s going to end up, and your own driving habits.

        Or we could just invest in rail instead of doubling down on private vehicles. Then we can be sure.

    • Rookeh@startrek.website
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      10 months ago

      Doesn’t need to be a “green energy paradise”, just a reasonably well connected first world country.

      Take a look at Electricity Maps. Unless you live somewhere isolated or with very poorly developed grid infrastructure (or some central US states, apparently), you should see a non-trivial amount of electricity being generated by non-fossil fuels. For example, at the time of typing this 77% of the electricity I’m using is low-carbon and 50% of it is renewable.

      That’s the kicker. EVs don’t have to rely on fossil fuels to operate (but they can make use of them depending on the grid infrastructure). ICE cars on the other hand are burning fuel wherever they go.

      Walking or cycling will always be the least polluting means of getting around, but if you really need a car then you could do a lot worse than getting an electric one.