A majority of younger veterans said they feel uncomfortable when they are told “thank you for your service,” a new poll found.
Ahead of Veterans Day on Saturday, a survey found disparities between young military members and their older counterparts in how they prefer to be recognized for their service.
Among younger military members and veterans — age 18 to 29 — 70 percent said they feel uncomfortable or awkward when they are thanked for their service. Only 24 percent of older members, 65 years and up, say the same, the Endeavor Analytics and YouGov poll found.
“This data shows that military service members and our veterans want Americans to go beyond small talk to connect with them on a deeper level, including learning more about their service, honoring each veteran’s service in ways in which they feel comfortable talking about it,” Robert F. Whittle Jr., retired Army major general and United Services Automobile Association (USAA) chief of staff, said in a statement.
It’s a weird thing to do. The lionization of the military is unhealthy for a democracy.
Thank a teacher, doctor, scientist or firefighter instead.
Don’t forget postal workers!
Also sanitization workers. We shouldn’t underestimate the importance of keepings things clean, have the sewage running, or taking our trash.
They truly are the thin brown line.
streets and sans is my heroes
Thank you for not going postal!
Grocery stockers. Janitors. Maintenance personnel. HVAC servicefolks.
And tip them for Christmas!
TLDR they can’t accept more than $20.
They can’t accept cash or cash equivalents of any amount. They can only accept gifts valued at less than $20.
TLDR: it’s a single paragraph.
Eh I gave him $20 cash last year. I’ll write him a check for $19
Convenience store workers are the true heroes under fire.
I’m a volunteer firefighter. When i first met my neighbour(an american who was previously in their army no less) he said “thank you for your service” upon learning this. I can confirm that I also felt awkward as fuck hearing that phrase.
I’ve always thought it was more for the person doing the thanking wanting everyone around know they’re more patriotic than everyone else
Performative patriotism.
No different than trying to have the most flags on your house.
Goes right along with their performative prayer
Oh man. Yeah. I won’t get into that dick waving contest. I just make sure mines the biggest.
I guess I always thought it was the thing to do, growing up in the wake of viet nam. I don’t anymore b/c I’ve heard from many not to.
I think veterans want to reintegrate into society and being recognized and thanked makes them feel “othered” rather than respected and appreciated.
This sounds like the most concise description of the experience
“I was trained to be a killer for 8 weeks, and was nothing but for 21 years. I was given 2 weeks to become a civilian again.”
-MSgt Brad “Iceman” Colbert
(Apologies if not fully accurate, I’d have to go find the interview again)
34 here, I absolutely hate being told thank you for my service and generally don’t reveal I was in the military if I can avoid it. I have no interest in being associated with the crowd of morons happy to send other people’s kids to war and then refuses to take care of them when they come back.
Every time I see someone with one of those fucking hats on (you know the ones) it makes me cringe so hard. Like those dudes who get there basic training company tattooed on their arm, or even worse, a combat patch tattoo hahaha. You now how many fucking boots got first cav tattoos after deployment? Lol. POGs everyone of them.
Can you tell me which hats. Sorry not sure which hat you mean…
The hats that say “Vietnam vet” or “first cav” or have an OIF ribbon on it or whatever
Why would Vietnam vet hat make you cringe? Those guys got spat on when they came home. If they want to wear a hat now why not?
After you left service maybe you put your time behind you, and that’s fine. But why would a Vietnam vet hat make you cringe?
There is no hate in my cringe but the cringe is real. There is an entire “boot” culture you aren’t aware of. Trust me on this one.
Eh, they can have a purpose. If you don’t want anyone to talk to you then you wear the dirty salt stained one. Or if you’re tired of people assuming your service dog is fake then put on a nice clean one. Instantly 100% less questions about “why do you have a dog?”
Shhhh. He is legend
Hell I’m 50 and I hate that shit. It’s the most pandering, “thought and prayers” bs since “thoughts and prayers”
So do plenty of us older ones. I worked in a hospital state side, I wasn’t G.I. Joe.
Yep, I don’t like it one bit when said to me, and the one time I said it to a much younger vet I’d met I immediately felt uncomfortable having said it. (And I think he was uncomfortable too.)
I joined up because I didn’t know what I wanted to do with my life, enjoyed a brief flare of patriotism during and after bootcamp, learned some marketable skills, hated being in by the time I’d been in a year, and got back out as soon as I could to get paid for those skills as a civilian.
Yeah it sucked, and I guess I’m glad that folks appreciate that it sucked, but no one should thank me personally for it. It was my choice to join, and I did it primarily due to a lack of other good options.
I appreciate the veterans that have come after, but generally find the military worship at certain concerts and such to be a bit over the top.
Tbh then you probably deserve it more than killers for joining an aggressive war
See? This is exactly what the article is talking about. Most people join up to do a job. They don’t get to decide if that job is done in Korea or Iraq. The politicians decide that.
Same here. I was an electrician that fixed lighthouses.
Medac fucking blows.
Im not a younger veteran, but I’ve learned not to tell anyone that I am. I don’t want people to thank me for stuff Im ashamed of from 20 years ago.
Thanks for being a human being, it can be tough sometimes.
Well if you’re not one, why would you tell someone that you are a young veteran? They can probably tell unless you age backwards like Benjamin Button.
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
For what it’s worth, I’m a 39-year-old veteran and also dislike being thanked for my service. I just don’t know how to respond to it. I feel like, “you’re welcome” or, “no problem” is not appropriate. I also don’t know how to respond to most complements.
For a few years now, I’ve replied with “Thank you for your support.” However I think I may start adding something like “You should look up wounded warriors and make a donation, they’re the ones that really need it.” Or some other org for disabled vets.
Thank you for your service lol
It’s always been weird, it’s a job, do you tell the Starbucks employee that serves our country and helps keep the American economy going “thank you for your service”? It would make sense if we didn’t have a volunteer military but we do so it’s the same as thanking anyone for the job they do if they see you in your work uniform
I only say it to bus drivers because they are the thin khaki line that stands between peace and total societal collapse
As a bus driver myself I couldn’t agree more, and thank you.
Even when it’s more than a job think about what you’re actually encapsulating in such a mundane phrase. People lost friends, limbs, even their sanity, and so much of society thinks hearing “Thank You” is all vets need.
Then the VA is falling apart, claims are a mental health problem themselves, and getting care in some of the hospitals is a battle itself. But it’s all okay because someone said thank you.
At a certain age group it also comes off a bit insulting in that they didn’t sign up during wartime. But they were sent to a war because of a massive amount of lies.
I do thank my local coffee shop for keeping me sane and alive during COVID lockdown when I was working night stock.
Do you already forget all of the “thank you for your service” things for first responders during COVID?
I always responded with, Thank you for paying your taxes.
And you know they probably paid those taxes cause a capitalist wouldn’t be caught dead thanking a veteran outside of making them money, sadly.
Military members would say that because of the type of people in the 2000s who would thank every military member, they also would claim taxes are theft. They are also the type that now support Trump and hate the military.
I feel uncomfortable when people thank me for my service and I wasn’t even in the military. I was a civilian working for the Air Force and it’s on my resume so I’m always thanked at interviews. It’s always so shallow, like a greeting.
“Hi! How’s your day? Thank you for your service!”
“No I didn’t fight. I was a civilian doing engineering work in support.”
Thank you for your service
Thank you for your service
service for your thank you.
No thank you I just had it serviced.
You’ve been served.
Thank you for servicing someone who’s just been served with your service
You’ve been serviced.
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So many people don’t understand how much of the Air Force is civilian engineers. They didn’t serve, they just understand there’s no better job they’re gonna get in Ohio with an engineering degree
I feel uncomfortable knowing americans do this.
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I’ve been in veteran circles, including qualifying for USAA benefits due to the service of family. I think he’s pretty accurate. Combat vets want a compassionate person to listen to their traumatic experiences, because most people use it as a thoughtless phrase to say, like saying thanks for someone opening a door. Most people saying it don’t want to know about the horrors they’ve seen. I’ve seen it in all of my family members and several friends that served in combat, they just want to be heard. The VA does what it can, but they need more funding to provide good therapists to vets.
The other vets that don’t like it usually didn’t serve in a combat role and don’t feel like they deserve it.
I suppose I’d be interested in finding out what they did in the military but if they just want to buy some beer then I’m not gonna bother them.
Of course if they didn’t wander around wearing military fatigues it wouldn’t come up.
As a veteran, I can’t help but imagine that a lot of the people I see wearing military paraphernalia were never in the military. I’ll only believe that you were/are in the military if you’re in full uniform with everything in the right place/position as only someone that is/was in the military would know how to do.
Fun fact. If you’re not in a rural area where that’s the fashion, and they’re obviously not actually wearing it as a uniform, (complete set, patches on, etc) they’re likely homeless. Or at least poor enough to need clothing hand outs.
Seriously, talk about jumping to conclusions. Maybe younger vets know that the more recent wars have been a farce and aren’t excessively proud of doing it, not like they get a choice in the matter.
I was at a doctor’s office and an old guy was wearing a cap for his naval boat and someone else had to go over and shake his hand and thank him for his service. You’re at a doctor’s office! Don’t fucking shake people’s hands!
*coughs into your mouth*
Thank you for your service!
*engages in sensual wide open mouth to mouth kissing, speaking while directly attached to his mouth cavity*
Thank you for your service
Or we could treat them like people and not revere a shitty job they had in their early 20s. Idk that’s what my veteran friends seem to prefer
And the fact most of our modern wars have been various versions of invasion.
I think that’s a big difference. These weren’t lads off fighting fascism in France and liberating concentration camps in Poland. Many of them were the tip of the spear of an illegal, immoral invasion that, retrospectively, has become toxic to have ever supported (unless you’re a Republican, then nobody cares).
Lucky for some current military folks in countries that still have functioning liberal democracies, you guys may have a chance to return the favor (that is, killing fascist scum) in the US within the next decade or so.
It’s extremely uncomfortable. I got thanked on base while I was in PT gear buying alcohol.
The correct gear to be wearing to get alcohol for sure.
False.
Silkies and PT belt are proper attire for buying alcohol. Don’t forget your battle buddy.
You must be a Marine lol /s
What? Was this an active duty base?! I’d imagine this person just sitting at the front gate thanking every car.
It was on an active base but it was a high school student that might have been there on a field trip or something. All I know is that I hated every moment of the interaction lol.