• Otter@lemmy.ca
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    8 months ago

    Title seems correct but confusing

    No Okta, it was senior management, not an errant employee, that caused you to get hacked

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      8 months ago

      This is a case where I’d actually use parentheses.

      No, Okta, it was senior management (not an errant employee) that got you hacked.

    • halfeatenpotato@lonestarlemmy.mooo.com
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      8 months ago

      For real, had to read it like 3x to understand. The amount of commas in the OP title is just unnatural. I might even do:

      No Okta, it was senior management - not an errant employee - that caused you to get hacked.

      If that’s wrong, then I have no idea what hyphens are for lol.

      • paris@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        8 months ago

        In this case, those hyphens should be em dashes (a great punctuation mark).

        Use them when trying to split up a sentence — like when you need to inject information that breaks the sentence flow — without splitting it into multiple sentences. They’re like parentheses that emphasize their information instead of quietly setting it to the side.

        On Windows, the alt code is 0151. On Android (and iOS?), just hold down on the hyphen key and choose the longest option. No clue how to get it on macOS.

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      8 months ago

      No, Okta; senior management caused you to get hacked, not an errant employee.

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    8 months ago

    I mean if you’re on GSuite, fundamentally isn’t a loss of control of your personal Gmail account just as likely as a loss of control of your professional account?

    It does show how browsers offering cloud-synched password vaults without mandating 2FA to use that feature is grossly irresponsible.

    2FA is, in my experience, the thing that would be blocking 99% of this kind of attack. Which shows how if you’re regularly using something that doesnt have 2FA that should be a red flag. In this case it was 2 layers of that:

    Their google account probably didn’t have 2FA, and neither did that service account. Now obviously a service account generally won’t have 2FA, but if you’re regularly keying in service account credentials into a web browser something has gone wrong.

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      8 months ago
      1. Not necessarily 2fa only secures you from direct attacks to the google login, but attackers can gain access another way: session cookie stealing.
      2. 2fa only really exists because people aren’t using better & unique passwords
  • vin@lemmynsfw.com
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    8 months ago

    If anyone here is a security expert, can you tell me if the following should have been done by default? Is it not a prevalent design practice?

    1. Binding Okta administrator session tokens based on network location (Complete)

    Okta has released session token binding based on network location as a product enhancement to combat the threat of session token theft against Okta administrators. Okta administrators are now forced to re-authenticate if we detect a network change. This feature can be enabled by customers in the early access section of the Okta admin portal.

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      8 months ago

      Not infosec but work with them closely this makes sense. If my laptop gets stolen or compromised it’s more likely to occur outside of the office or a VPN session. If I have sessions established with admin I 100% want them to forcefully logout if my network changes. This would prevent a common scenario of bad actors from using a pre existing admin session.

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          8 months ago

          What negligence? If I read the policy change by Okta they’re ensuring that security of killing an admin session if the network changes.

          Edit - unless you mean not mandating the feature by default? As a SaaS solution Okta is set to provide the tools for any company to use which they’re doing. They provide the ability to enable tighter security but it’s not their problem to solve. They could argue successfully that a company can and should enable their own security provisions that may overlap.

          To use non-IT terms, Okta is providing a box of knives to a teacher. The expectation is the teacher ensures if the kids can use the knives or not. Okta can take out the sharpest knives if you ask them to but you have to ask.

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    8 months ago

    Using my company’s network, access to Google (Gmail) authentication is blocked by the firewall. Why haven’t they done similarly if employees aren’t supposed to do so?

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      8 months ago

      Based on a few DNS lookups, I see that Okta likely uses GSuite. Would it still be possible the block non-work related Google logins at the firewall level? Seems that would complicate things quite a bit.