• It's Maddie!@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    Fucking thank you! I read so much bullshit about this group or that one saying they’re not gonna support Biden because of whatever, it makes me want to scream

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      9 months ago

      A lot of those people and the enlightened centrists who say “both parties are the same” are disinformation warriors and Russian bots designed to erode support for Biden. Even just 1% or 2% can make a difference in some battleground states.

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        9 months ago

        Or maybe people plugging their ears and pretending everything is some giant misinformation campaign against their home team because they think they deserve the win without trying are being shocked to find they don’t have the support they think is owed to them for simply not being fascists.

        If everything you hear is just some fake person with no real problems you miss the people actually complaining about their legitimate ones and feel forgotten about and at best don’t vote and at worst vote for the side that agrees that it would be fun to pick on the people perceived as above them.

        Biden should at least run debates or else people are just going to be in exactly their own bubble of awareness and have his results of his presidency to work with and hopes and dreams of the other and people suck at objective looks at reality and are much more willing to believe in fairy tales than you think.

        And I know my statement makes everyone foam at theouth cause “How dare I say this!” But it is what it is. You must look reality in the face of you want to have any hope controlling it.

        • Without arguments like these in 2016, women in the south would still be able to have abortions. If you want change, find local elections with candidates you agree with. Their campaigns typically pay well, in my experience, or you can volunteer if the pay doesn’t matter to you. It’s more fruitful than throwing your hands in the air and shouting about disenfranchisement.

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            9 months ago

            Without arguments like these in 2016, women in the south would still be able to have abortions.

            What the heck? What’s the logic on that? People pointing out bad candidates is why they lost? Like seriously how on earth do you blame the weather man for the rain?

            • Look, you have an optimistic view on this but impotent complaints don’t solve anything besides venting your frustrations. In objective USA, there are two parties on the national stage, one of which is actively, malignantly harmful. Detracting from the lesser of two evils is a boon to the greater.

              I swear to god, if trump wins because of public sentiments on the internet again, I’m going to subtly inflict alcoholism upon every republican I know. Enjoy your relapses, fuckos.

              • Krauerking@lemy.lol
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                9 months ago

                Real simple. I could shut up and you would see no change. Just not hear the conversation about it directly. If you think I or any of the tiny percentage of the real world impact the Internet has is gonna be the changing factor you are incorrectly assuming and overconfidently ascribing power to what happens here. In this fraction of a fraction of a percentage.

                Good luck with that prank though. Sounds like a banger of an own.

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                    9 months ago

                    In January 2023, a study from New York University’s Center for Social Media and Politics about the influence of Russian trolls on Twitter found they had little influence on 2016 voters’ attitudes, polarization, or voting behavior.

                    And it was mostly Facebook ads. Really misunderstanding what the dangerous part of the Internet is. Not the discussion space.

                    We are all already polarized and in our lanes here. And stop being age-ist. We are all in this together.

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      9 months ago

      Right, people who are “Biden is genocide!!” while republicans would be worse about Palestine and trump is calling for genocide against Central Americans.

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      9 months ago

      If Biden wants those groups to stop being detractors, there is a very easy solution - simply hold a primary for DNC president, and let them cast their “other” vote there. Then Dems can galvanize support for the winning candidate in ‘24.

      Unfortunately they know this won’t work due to how massively unpopular Biden is, and so they refuse. So, the problem is that DNC doesn’t want a democratically elected president, they want to try to force a genocidal dinosaur down our throats and somehow at the same time claim that the end of democracy is voting for the other guy. It’s a lose-lose for America - thanks, Biden.