Calling AirBnB “a hotel chain” is an insult to hotels.
Hotels don’t require you to clean somebody else’s house while you are on vacation like a maid, and then charging you a cleaning fee for missing a spot. There isn’t even much of a price difference nowadays, so staying at a hotel wins every time.
I have two younger kids. We can very close to renting a hotel on our last in-state vacation. It would have actually been somewhat cheaper. The reason we still went for the AirBnB was because our kids are asleep by like 7:30 and we didn’t want to be ‘trapped’ in the hotel room and didn’t want to rent a second. AirBnB made it significantly easier to find a house to rent.
That said, the number of AirBnBs in that area of the state has really grown. I can’t imagine that’s doing the people who live there any favors.
How about toilet cleaning robots stealing our jobs?
Only 73 votes though. That’s not a good enough sample size. OP didn’t try hard enough
Can we have option 4?
-Love all the disruption and none of the intended product
Edit: or the option where I can count…
No one needs to be able to count any more, because we can just ask the AI to do it. I’m sure there’s a counting app on your phone or something.
What is “illegal cab company” supposed to represent?
You see Uber and Lyft aren’t technically legal taxi services in many places because they don’t employ any drivers or own any vehicles. They have “Contracted Individuals.”
Hey, its not fake money for criminals! It’s barely legal casino, sheesh!
If it was just BTC then there is an argument to make, although there have been many criminal actions involving the manipulation of BTC in the past and also the use of BTC for criminal actions but that’s a dumb argument because BTC makes it easier to track funds to their source, the problem arrives when you talk about cryptocurrencies as a whole and especially NFT Crypto. Then, yeah, fake money for criminals 100%. Even the IBM backed crypto was shady AF.
What about hyper-intrusive handheld ad machine?
I’m not getting baited into well akshuallyying any of these, nice try!
I see no one has mentioned Nazi microblog platform yet.
Not many people commenting the fake money for criminals lol.
I thought it was pretty cool when I used it to buy drugs.
probably because it doesn’t describe a real thing, much like the plagiarism machine.
Sounds like BitCoin to me.
what makes it any less real than any other money?
not backed by anything except hype
not able to use it anywhere except in like, 5 niche ATM locations
can’t even mine it for value and have to go by proof-of-stake for any useful amount of money
can make a random shitcoin to pull the rug under cryptobros and NFT shills
only legitimate use case was to buy drugs via The Silk Road
Yeah, cryptocurrency is a fuckin waste of the tech lmao. You could theoretically prevent identity theft with blockchain tech and it could also theoretically replace SSNs, but instead we used for a fake currency and jpegs of bored apes.
You could theoretically prevent identity theft with blockchain tech
In practice it’s happening multiple times a day. All it takes for one is to snoop the private key to get full control over a wallet.
not backed by anything except hype
what backs turquoise?
this is a terrible list of attributes to use to establish whether any currency is “fake money”
And you have a terrible list of reasons all separated out into single comments for some reason :)
you keep conflating cryptocurrency and blockchain and bitcoin. are we talking about bitcoin here?
Any cryptocurrency because it works off the blockchain. You have the transactions committed on a wallet that exists on the blockchain, which is how you get the public transactions in the first place.
what backs turquoise?
Literally any fiat currency, or you could even barter with it if somebody wanted it. It has tangible value because it has a physical demand.
have you tried mining any other money? you can’t mine dollars at all, and proof of stake is a great way of explaining the compound interest system.
Actually, if you work a job, you get paid in money. Crazy, I know - you don’t have to speculate and hype on a fake currency :)
that has nothing to do with bitcoin.
But we’re talking about cryptocurrency, no? Unless you’re saying BitCoin is not a crypto?
In practice it’s happening multiple times a day. All it takes for one is to snoop the private key to get full control over a wallet.
True, and there’s also that 51% majority control thing too. Nothing can get rid of social engineering either, but perhaps there’s a chance to develop better security for blockchain-based tech.
there are a lot of vendors that do or have in the past accepted bitcoin. where can you spend turquoise? or confederate dollars?
Physically or online? Because you can spend crypto at like Microsoft online, for example, but could you go to a bar or a restaurant and pay with crypto?
And you have a terrible list of reasons all separated out into single comments for some reason :)
to keep ideas separate. it helps prevent a gish gallop and walls of text.
Actually, if you work a job, you get paid in money. Crazy, I know - you don’t have to speculate and hype on a fake currency :)
this is distinct from mining, the process by which new bitcoins are actually put into circulation. you can’t MAKE dollars: the cia are the only people allowed to do that.
But we’re talking about cryptocurrency, no?
the comment i responded to said bitcoin.
Any cryptocurrency because it works off the blockchain. You have the transactions committed on a wallet that exists on the blockchain, which is how you get the public transactions in the first place.
you don’t seem to understand that most cryptos don’t work on the bitcoin blockchain. bitcoin has its own blockchain.
Physically or online
you’re moving teh goalposts.
True, and there’s also that 51% majority…
you should respond to the person who actually left this comment. i’m not a part of that conversation.
Unless you’re saying BitCoin is not a crypto?
your other issues with crypto have nothing to do with bitcoin.
Literally any fiat currency, or you could even barter with it if somebody wanted it. It has tangible value because it has a physical demand.
you don’t seem to know this, so i’m going to explain it to you: turquoise was the currency of indigenous people in the northeast of the so-called united states. it’s not money now. what backed turquoise? nothing. the point was its ubiquity.
EDIT: Should also mention that you literally cannot trade crypto in some states of the US because those states require crypto institutions to have physical assets that equal their digital assets, which is actually pretty smart. Because people can’t buy shit with their 0.2 BitCoins and 50k DogeCoins, this means that those institutions don’t operate or allow trading from these states.
that doesn’t change whether bitcoin is real. it only changes whether crypto exchanges can operate legally in arbitrary jurisdictions.
that doesn’t change whether bitcoin is real. it only changes whether crypto exchanges can operate legally in arbitrary jurisdictions.
Reason I brought that fact up is because those states are saying that crypto needs to backed by something physical instead of an intangible hype and speculation factor.
What makes BitCoin worth $42k? Or Ethereum worth $2.2k? Like, what is physically driving the worth of these cryptocurrencies? Some fiat currencies moved away from precious metals, sure, but they’re back by at least the economies of each country. From what I can tell and have seen, crypto is backed by… hype and speculation. There’s no tangible thing that can back crypto, hence why it’s a fake currency because it’s more or less arbitrarily at a price point just because it is.
What makes BitCoin worth $42k?
money existed before dollars. the dollar value of any asset is not determinate of whether that asset is money.
those states aren’t authorities on what money is
There’s no tangible thing that can back crypto
lots of currencies have never had a physical backing.
From what I can tell and have seen, crypto is backed by… hype and speculation.
bitcoin is a network protocol. cryptographic tokens are issued within it. what backs it is the security of the cryptographic system and the combined hashing power of the network. if you think it doesn’t have value, that’s ok: value is subjective. some people do think it’s valuable to be able to control these cryptographic tokens. and that’s ok, too: value is subjective.
can make a random shitcoin to pull the rug under cryptobros and NFT shills
that has nothing to do with bitcoin.
only legitimate use case was to buy drugs via The Silk Road
there are a lot of vendors that do or have in the past accepted bitcoin. where can you spend turquoise? or confederate dollars?
can’t even mine it for value and have to go by proof-of-stake for any useful amount of money
have you tried mining any other money? you can’t mine dollars at all, and proof of stake is a great way of explaining the compound interest system.
not able to use it anywhere except in like, 5 niche ATM locations
where do you use turquoise?
Yeah, cryptocurrency is a fuckin waste of the tech lmao. You could theoretically prevent identity theft with blockchain tech and it could also theoretically replace SSNs, but instead we used for a fake currency and jpegs of bored apes.
you keep conflating cryptocurrency and blockchain and bitcoin. are we talking about bitcoin here?
No government backing, and I can’t use it anywhere. The only way for me to use Cryptocurrency as money in 99.9% of the places I shop is to exchange said crypto for real money.
money predates governments, and there are vendors who will sell goods for bitcoin.
Money doesn’t predate governments, governments have been around since the earliest tribes, and bartering was the most common way to exchange goods until large governments started issuing currency.
And no, there aren’t. I can’t walk into any store anywhere I have been and buy goods with bitcoin, nor can I use bitcoin on any of the online shops I have ever been to.
I can’t walk into any store anywhere I have been and buy goods with bitcoin, nor can I use bitcoin on any of the online shops I have ever been to.
you haven’t been to every store on earth, nor visited every online vendor.
bartering was the most common way to exchange goods
you clearly haven’t been keeping up with anthropology in the last 20 years. i recommend reading Debt: The First 5,000 Years. i also suggest pirating it if you can: the author is dead. he won’t mind.
the impression i’m getting is that bitcoin isn’t money to you, but bitcoin is money to some people, so it’s real money.
Yes, it’s because this whole post is meant as a joke or a jest. It’s meant to be taken as funny.
How did you understand it?
the exploitative “gig economy” capitalists aren’t a joke to me.
They are jokes tho
all money is fake tho?
only relatively recently, since 1971
trueee
Yesterday I went to a shop and they let me take away some stuff after I handed over some colourful bits of paper. Seems real enough to me.
by that logic crypto is real too. since you can buy things with it
Trust me bro, Capitalism is necessary for innovation, just trust me bro
Yeah you’re right let’s follow the great innovations of the USSR, North Korea, Vietnam, and Cuba
Those aren’t the only alternatives, lmao. Do you think humans stop innovating if they share tools and democratize production, rather than having a bunch of unaccountable mini-dictators?
Do you think the Capitalists are the ones who innovate, or is it the Engineers and Scientists that do?
Show the alternatives then.
And yeah the capitalists are the ones that drive the innovation since they’re the ones that allocate the capital where it would generate the most return, which sometimes means innovation.
You’re literally on one of the alternatives. FOSS is a rejection of the profit motive, and individual ownership of Capital. It is, quite literally, an anticapitalist statement. Are you under the impression you’re on Reddit?
Money doesn’t need to come from Capitalists, and again, Capitalists aren’t doing the innovating. That’s like saying the bread baker that fed the Engineer is doing the innovating, because without the bread baker, the Engineer couldn’t innovate. Of course humanity is interlinked, no one man is an island, but that doesn’t mean labor performed by one person is actually labor performed by another.
I’ll make it simple for you, and give you 2 choices.
Factory 1: Capitalist owner, non-owner workers. The only voice workers have is to either get a new job, or unionize.
Factory 2: Workers are the owners, and thus production is democratized. One of the workers is elected as a manager, and may be stripped of power by the rest of the workers at any time.
Which one is better?
To circle back: what you listed is a very, very narrow vision of what Socialism can mean. Socialism is Worker Ownership of the Means of Production, and can be just as varied as Capitalist organization. Are you going to say that Sweden is the same as Pinochet’s Chile, just because both were/are Capitalist? Absurd.
FOSS is not necessarily a rejection of the profit motive, it just says that there shouldn’t be restrictions to redistribute work to the masses. Just look at Linux itself. The project is maintained largely by contributions from (big tech)[https://lwn.net/Articles/915435/] even though it’s under the most restrictive copyleft license.
Also, I’d rather the factory that has the incentive to reduce prices to compete with others instead of the one that has all the incentive to increase costs (wages).
Besides, you can absolutely create any co-op you want in a capitalists system. If you think it’s just as innovative then just go and start one instead of screeching at people that capitalism bad.
Are you really that dumb? The point of open source software is that anyone can contribute and use. So of course some tech companies are going to contribute to the Linux kernel, why? Because it’s more innovative than the alternatives. The best innovation happens when you let go of the profit motive and just let engineers tinker.
Buddy look around. We are in a capitalist paradise and what is happening? Oh right, costs are rising! Why are you pretending that capitalism means that companies keep the costs low, when it literally incentivizes monopolies to form, and thus drives UP costs??
Capitalism is the reason for institutional racism (in the US), for the degregation of the environment, for poverty in first world countries, for so many wars and violent coups, for literal slavery. If you think that billionaires controlling society will create innovation, it might, but for the a cost of exploitation and destruction that 100% isn’t worth it.
It’s crazy to me that people like you genuinly believe that a worker led society is somehow bad. You do know that you are a worker right?
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FOSS is undeniably a rejection of the profit motive. People may use something developed as FOSS to make a profit, but FOSS itself is rejecting profit. Linux being used by for-profit companies does not mean it’s suddenly privately owned, a la Capitalism.
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You didn’t answer the question, you dodged it entirely. If this is your way of massaging that you think antidemocratic measures to ensure workers have no say other than to unionize or leave is a good system, then it’s a very odd dodge. You can have normal wages and normal sale prices with worker ownership.
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Being able to start a co-op within a market based system does not mean co-ops are Capitalist. They are firm rejections of Capitalism. Additionally, if we can agree that democratic control is better than authoritarian, centralized control of Production a la Capitalism, then it makes sense to advocate for a more democratic and horizontal structure.
Am I not allowed to make my case against Capitalism when clearly relevant? Shutting me down by claiming I’m screeching at others, when you yourself attacked my comment first, is ironic to say the least.
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Where is “social media surveillance apparatus”?
Plagirized reddit
You forgot “cable television, but over the internet and no one has all the channels.”
“…and it all still has ads.”
🏴☠️
So, Internet cable TV
