• YoFrodo@lemmy.world
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    This argument is hilarious with the intended implication that Republicans would somehow be different. Both Dem and Repub support Israel and the arms deals. Dems are still far better for the US though

    I wish they didn’t support Isreal with weapons but here we are

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      The intended implication that Republicans would somehow be different.

      Republicans don’t pretend to advocate for a ceasefire.

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      The Obama administration dropped an average of 60 bombs every single day, on the middle east and north africa, during his presidency.

      Has there been any reckoning or reflection on that atrocity, within the democratic party?

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      Dems are still far better for the US though

      I wish they didn’t support Isreal with weapons but here we are

      I genuinely don’t understand how y’all say this with a straight face. You can’t justify genocide with any other policies. It’s literally just “atleast Mussolini made the trains run on time” fascist apologia.

      You are in the “in group” for the Democrats right now so you aren’t being harmed. That doesn’t change the fact they have a harmful ideology that pushes and normalizes fascism and genocide, and it doesn’t protect you in the long run to support/ encourage those sentiments. You just normalize them and strengthen them for the opponent to use, “first they came for…”.

      (…I was going to use the harsh border/immigration policies to make a comparison at first, but unfortunately these policies and sentiments have already been co-opted and normalized by the Democrats as well…)

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      This argument is hilarious with the intended implication that Republicans would somehow be different.

      There is no such implication.

      Both Dem and Repub support Israel and the arms deals.

      Correct, liberals are pretending otherwise.

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        There is no such implication.

        Yes there lmao. Otherwise the meme would have “US GOVT” at the bottom, but by only calling out Dems its trying to imply that the only other viable party is somehow different.

        And liberals/dems/the left know this. They either support Israel too or are outspoken against it, hence the protests that are ignored or demonized by the media.

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          Yes there lmao. Otherwise the meme would have “US GOVT” at the bottom, but by only calling out Dems its trying to imply that the only other viable party is somehow different.

          Wrong, it’s highlighting to liberals and dems that their party is also complicit in genocide, which they are currently firmly denying.

          And liberals/dems/the left know this. They either support Israel too or are outspoken against it, hence the protests that are ignored or demonized by the media.

          Why are you grouping in the Left with liberals and dems?

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            You are being purposefully obtuse if you think this mean isnt attempting to put Dems in a spot where Repubs arent.

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                I agree, that is the reality, but by only calling out Dems its implying Repubs are different. To me that is the apparent purpose of this meme.

                “Oh, Dems turn a blind eye to genocide in Palestine” true, but Repubs do as well. Its almost the whole of US Congress that is complicit.

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                  I agree, that is the reality, but by only calling out Dems its implying Repubs are different. To me that is the apparent purpose of this meme.

                  You’re on a Communist community, you aren’t going to find fans of the GOP.

                  “Oh, Dems turn a blind eye to genocide in Palestine” true, but Repubs do as well. Its almost the whole of US Congress that is complicit.

                  Correct, but this statement is bannable on Lemmy.world.

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    Liberals thinking Harris can get a ceasefire while also promising to never stop giving Israel bombs to kill Palestinians with would be funny if it weren’t utterly depraved.

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      “we will push Democrats left by giving them what they want and not even allowing anyone to criticize them” ~ Blue MAGAs solution to the rise of fascism.

      And

      “We will push netanyahu left by giving him what he wants and not even allowing anyone to criticize him” ~ Democratic partys solution to an existing fascist Genocide.

      At least it’s a consistent ideology… of appeasement…

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    “We’ll keep the genocide going but change our public language to make it sound like a ceasefire is on the table.”