• samus12345@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    It’s rarely said in that exact manner because it sounds bad, but the policies they support amount to it.

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      23 days ago

      Reminds me of people who say Americans can’t be Nazis because America isn’t 1940’s Germany. lmao

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        23 days ago

        Reminds me more of when I got called a Nazi on Reddit for nothing more than stating the fact that one of the main reasons long term capital gains tax is lower than income tax is because it incentivizes investment, lol.

        Unfortunately I can’t remember why on the other side, but I’ll never forget the most notable thing about that day–that was the day I got called a Nazi and a Commie on two different subreddits on the same day, lol.

        Don’t even try to pretend that this isn’t a very common move, especially online.

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          23 days ago

          This isn’t what people saying x can’t be nazis, because it isn’t the 1930s-40s, are saying this too. They are saying this when people are pointing out people who are nationalists, and support ethno-states, and the like, as nazis. In the situation you are talking about they just say that everyone is a nazi online or these days. That specific statement though, it comes from particular people, for particular reasons.

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          23 days ago

          Well sure, of course people can be stupid as fuck. I think my comment pointed that out very clearly.

          It’s a catch all for a perceived “bad guy”.

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        23 days ago

        If you don’t realise how supporting a politician who defunds school lunches is an active statement that childen shouldn’t be fed, then your cause-and-effect detector is broken.

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          23 days ago

          I’m not falling for that, I know the games legislators play with bundling shit into a bill so that anyone who votes for/against it based on one part is now declared as being firmly for/against everything in it, because ‘they voted for/against it’.

          And what you’re saying here takes it a step further than that, by taking it beyond a bill to “supporting a politician”. So let’s say a politician makes it so that hospitals have to be more transparent about itemizing things on their bills. Okay, I support that, and say so. But now people like you come along and say that I’m “supporting a politician who” and then name all sorts of shit I said nothing about supporting.

          No.

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            23 days ago

            You’re getting blasted in this thread, but I wanted to thank you for bringing some nuance to this ridiculously partisan and strawman-y conversation.

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            23 days ago
            • Vote for a politician who defunds school lunch programmes
            • Children go hungry
            • ???
            • I did not vote for children to go hungry, Bill Riders said I’m not responsible

            Yeah, your cause-and-effect detector is busted as fuck. Sorry little buddy, good luck fixing it.

          • bastion@feddit.nl
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            22 days ago

            I like your take, and your nuanced approach. People seem to be under the impression that their rage matters more than actually thinking about what caused it, and how best to address that.

            If I were Republican, or voted Republican, and this shit happened, I’d be pissed. But more to the point, I’d find ways of fighting it, to whatever degree I can.

            It is simply an unfortunate artifact of our system (of many systems) that there’s a lot of potential to lie. Changes in our system that mitigate that, and that fundamentally allow for more parties to participate in the process, are where we really need to head, long-term.

            And in the short term, fuck that policy.