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    This might just be the push I need to switch to Linux desktop.

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      Do it. With proton the last argument for me to use windows is gone (gaming).

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        Can you run Adobe software via proton? As soon as that works I’ll be on Linux.

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          Look at your usecase, if it really requires adobe suite, you are out of luck i’m afraid. Perhaps you could research running a VM or wine, but I havent tried any of that myself.

          If you conclude that you dont need features exclusive to adobe you might be able to find a foss alternative.

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            10 months ago

            I need Lightroom and I’ve tried Darktable but it just doesn’t cut it.

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      I spent the last ~10 days “playing” with many distros, including testing some current games, and I am literally right now backing up my files and about to reformat my main PC to linux (full drive, no dual). This is after only having experience with copy-paste Raspberry PI guides for my pi-hole.

      Don’t totally believe “oh it’s so easy, nothing to configure” - those people are lying, especially if you’ve not used Linux before. But several flavors of Ubuntu are quite pleasant, and I appear to have found a home with PopOS. I can’t find anything that “doesn’t work”, and the worst fixes were just quick searches for help. PopOS won due to nvidia compatibility and a nice, snappy desktop. It also was the fastest in overall reformat cycle time. My wife’s computer is still Windows, if I do have any microsoft emergencies.

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        OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is rather easy.

        But anyway, no mainstream user-friendly Linux distribution is that hard to use if you can read and think.

        So when people say that they can’t manage one on their desktop - they also usually can’t manage Windows on their desktop, they just think they can.

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      About a month ago Windows 11 started forcing ads for apps and services I didn’t need. Immediately installed a popular Linux distribution to have some peace of mind. There’s every flavor of desktop out there. I picked one for work and games (pop_os). It’s out of my way most of the time and it’s not trying to sell me anything. I recommend it, specially, if you’re someone that doesn’t fiddle with settings too much, it just work.

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        10 months ago

        I use Windows, macOS, and Linux, but all in separate ways. Haven’t used a desktop Linux in quite some time — only headless Linux servers.

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    Well in that case I might replace windows 12 with not using windows 12

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      A few weeks ago when they made the search bar come back after I had told it to go away I switched to Linux. It’s weird the small annoyances that add up. It’s great so far. With KDE for the desktop environment, you can make it look however you want, including almost identical to any version of windows you want. It’s really quite usable, and generally I’m already faster and more comfortable with it than I was with windows.

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          Yeah, don’t use old versions of Windows (or any OS really). Upgrade to Win 10/11 or install Linux (or something else that’s supported).

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    Microsoft may replace the Start button with the Copilot AI in Windows 12

    Yeah, they could also replace the start button with a shit emoji. But there’s no indication at all anybody wants to do any of that because they’re not idiots. You only said that so people visit your shitty website. In fact, not even the quote you reference for your article suggests any plans of replacing the start button whatsoever:

    “The Copilot is like the Start button,” Nadella explains. “It becomes the orchestrator of all your app experiences. So for example, I just go there and express my intent and it either navigates me to an application or it brings the application to the Copilot, so it helps me learn, query and create — and completely changes, I think, the user habits.”

    Fuck clickbait headlines and fuck websites bending any and all content to the SEO voodoo.

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        And everybody’s just happy to bitch about whatever the headline suggests without ever checking if it’s even true.

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      Lemmy communities need to start banning domains that post clickbait garbage like this.

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    I love this idea. The reason people continue using Windows is because they’re used to it. Messing with the Start button is going to piss off even the most patient users. Not to mention it’ll be an absolute nightmare for any IT department. Just imagine an army of Karens calling your hotline first thing on Monday morning, yelling at you because you took away the Start button. It’ll make Windows 8 look like a huge success.

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      They already fucked with start menu and search and it’s already a problem for IT. I can’t find any app I got installed unless I spell it out right, and even then it might work with just 3/8 letters in but no further.

      Sometimes I just click through program files cause it’s faster.

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        For some fucking brilliant reason, searching update shows discord, so to find updates I have to spell it wrong

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        sometimes you can’t find an application even when you spell it out correctly, hafta go through the apps list to find them.

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      I feel like things like Classic Shell (or whatever the go-to alternative is nowadays) are just going to make bank from enterprise customers suddenly wanting to make their desktops usable for the average user.

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        Doubtful. It’s hard enough to get programs past our security team and having half malware bundled programs like this won’t be an easy task.

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          Lol, what? There is no malware in classic shell, or start11 or explorer patcher. Wtf are you talking about?

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              i remember some game refusing to launch just because i had it installed

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        Openshell on github. I don’t know that it’s the same code, but I’m pretty sure the Classic Shell website linked to it.

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      Which is why this is obviously just a shitty clickbait headline. Have you read the article? Nobody is planning to replace the start button but they could and that’s enough for tech “journalism” these days.

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    Windows 10 is my last windows. When i upgrade my destop i’m going Mint

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        Well, my laptop’s already there, but i really don’t feel like dealing with system reinstallation on my games pc. It’ll be much easier for me to just stick with W10 for the next few months, and then jump ship, seeing as the upgrade i have planned won’t be using any components from my dekstop.

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      Linux is my daily driver. I used to struggle with it but it’s on point these days. Proton takes care of 90% of the gaming issues.

      I can’t imagine ever going back to windows, I really can’t.

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        I mean, i only ever use my current desktop for games. My laptop where i do basically everything else is already running mint.

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        Do games work on proton on release day, or does it take work by the community or someone to get new games working?

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    Is this like the previous theory that Windows 12 would be subscription based?

    “The Copilot is like the Start button,” Nadella explains. “It becomes the orchestrator of all your app experiences. So for example, I just go there and express my intent and it either navigates me to an application or it brings the application to the Copilot, so it helps me learn, query and create — and completely changes, I think, the user habits.”

    Saying “copilot is like the start button” is not saying “copilot will replace the start button”, the article is dishonest clickbait and stupid.

    This is just MS taking another kick at Cortana, this time powered by LLM generative AI.

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      This post needs to be somehow tagged as misleading. Too many people are going to accept the headline at face value.

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    pretend you’re my late grandma, whom I miss a lot. her favourite pastime at this time of the day was deleting the C:/system32 directory.

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    I too, think the Windows start menu is way too responsive and not buggy enough. /s

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    Microsoft why are you trying to pull an Elon and destroy your own brand, stop that – what, after all, has a dedicated keyboard key on Windows keyboards, and has for decades?

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      They’re not. It’s just the author’s “creativity”. There’s no indication of plans to change the start button. Still, they could change the start button, which apparently warrants a misleading article people actually discuss.

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    I only have one machine that’s still running Windows. This would convince me to finally make that zero.

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      I only have one machine using Windows because I don’t want to be “left behind” in the corporate desktop world, but it’s on my “left hand monitor” while my center and right of three monitors are Kubuntu. The specs won’t let me use 11 on any of my systems. My company laptop is still Windows 10 as well because some of our security software doesn’t run on 11 yet.

      If I didn’t have to work in the corporate space, I’d quit Windows in a fast second. I have been using Kubuntu as my daily driver for almost 10 years now.

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    All the “X company may/could/might” and “X plans on this” news feel like they’re just feeling for a reaction from the public to see what they can and can’t get away with. If it gets too much push back, they just put it on the shelf and boil the frogs for longer before trying again, like with Google and WEI. It’s tiring. Stop being evil you corpo fucks.

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      “Stop being evil you corpo fucks.”

      Narrator: this proved to be as possible as empathetic capitalism, that is to say, physically and theoretically impossible.