Edit: new and improved image, now with 100% less support! Used my expert photo editing skills to change “supporting” to say “voting for”

    • banneryear1868@lemmy.world
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      Literally going psycho mode on the 2016 strategy of shaming the voters they need rather than blaming the DNC in any meaningful way for it’s lack of ability to appeal to those voters. They don’t understand this has already topped out on effectiveness. Not realizing Biden won because of the pandemic in spite of this strategy is going to mark the failure and likely GOP win this year.

      Sad and pathetic to see it happen this way, where the very people they need to win are the ones they target and judge harshest.

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        One is rusty shitbox, the other is radioactive rusty shitbox that is also on fire.

        I choose rusty shitbox every time in this situation.

        Does it suck? Yeah.

        Not as badly as the alternative.

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          One is rusty shitbox, the other is radioactive rusty shitbox that is also on fire.

          I genuinely don’t understand what people think happened between 2017 and 2021. The idea that democracy ended, the country collapsed, and we all got radiation poisoning and died seems systemic.

          Two of those four years even had a Dem majority in the legislature, ffs.

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                Dude what’s the weather like on whichever exo planet that you currently live on? Pretty shitty I imagine

                Maybe everyone here would get more valuable input from you if you could help describe just how it is you were able to travel such far mental distances in the first place. Maybe we could fill NASA in.

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            Biden completely ignored helping healthcare and tuition debt UNTIL he lost the majority. Democrats rely on letting Republicans take the heat for the conservative legislation they want to enact.

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              Biden completely ignored helping healthcare and tuition debt UNTIL he lost the majority.

              Well, he was convinced that he could pass bipartisan legislation back in 2021.

              Why? Who the fuck knows. Presumably because he’d slept through the 111th United States Congressional cycle.

              Democrats rely on letting Republicans take the heat for the conservative legislation they want to enact.

              They hated him because he spoke the truth.

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                If he worked quickly, he wouldn’t have to pass legislation with Republican permission. Better healthcare is akin to socialism to the two main parties. Biden and Obama would rather have the garbage on the “open market”. Imagine paying $400 a month (for individual) and the best you can get is to lock emergency care to a few grand (which is better than nothing - the Democrat motto).

                Seriously, have you ever had free market insurance? It’s horrible; thankfully my job offered to pay most of the monthly cost until I found a job with better healthcare. That was a few years ago; it’s worse now. The open market is not a replacement for good healthcare; and the good work-group based healthcare is not offered with every job in the first place.

                They hated him because he spoke the truth.

                I’m sorry but I did not understand this reference. Which person are you referring to and what did this person say?

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    Obviously the only solution is to vote Trump out of spite!

    Cut to Buffalo Bill (GOP) wearing the DNCs skin

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      Obviously the only solution is to vote Trump out of spite!

      Not voting is a vote for Trump.

      Voting third party is no better than not voting.

      Also, we need you to Like, Subscribe, and Share Donate, Blockwalk, and GOTV or you’re not really committed! And if Biden loses? It’s somehow still your fault for being insufficiently zealous.

      only one party gave us trump

      They Always Wanted Trump: Inside Team Clinton’s year-long struggle to find a strategy against the opponent they were most eager to face.

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        That submissive defeatist mindset lol. “You have to vote for my guy because the other guy is worst, you have no choice.”. What if I tell you that’s the whole plan? And what about the millions people who politics doesn’t align with the liberals? Does their voice not matter?

        How can you pretend living in a democracy lol we’re not perfect but at least we have proportional representation.

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      If there were some kind of guarantee that the DNC collapsed on a Trump victory…

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          I thought they were talking death camps but yeah, what you said.

          If we look at history though… a Trump win would put the DNC in the head lights of an authoritarian government. Let’s be real here, people on the capitol have nothing to fear. They might make an example of some high profiles but the rest will deal to sell the country down the shitter.

          See you all at the end of the world I guess. Life under Biden would have been meh and I guess that’s worth dying for.

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    Maybe it’s my demand avoidance. But that just makes me want to say fuck you all, good luck.

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      Sometimes you gotta go one step back to go two steps forward. If we fail to move forward afterwards, maybe we deserve what we get.

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      See, instead of not voting, instead of, not doing something, that spite is the kind of shit which just drives me to do something productive, or, at least, it’s better channeled that way, I think. I would vote if this was the ballot and this was the ballot box, insert image of molotov and government building, sort of thing.

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      Pretty cool how thinking like this is what led to the fall of abortion right. Cool cool cool. Very neat.

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    @hydroptic

    Okay but I’ve watched that film: Either way, whether you conform and put the lotion on or you get the hose again, either way you’re still in the pit and you’re going to get killed to make a skinsuit unless Clarice Starling shows up and rescues you.

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    Let’s see what happens in 4 years when trump runs again if he loses (because of course he will).

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        Seeing as how his brain dead followers have likened him to the God Emperor of Mankind before I am not sure him being worm food (poor wormies) would stop them from voting for him.

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    We don’t get to vote for better in the US. We get to vote for “less worse” or “more worse.” But not “better.”

    Better takes ages. Massive organizing. And probably some violence on someone’s part. But you don’t get to vote for “better” in this country.

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      Goddamn if this ain’t the truest thing I’ve read in weeks. Just an addendum, slavery has never gone away. It built the foundation of this country and continues to be the reliable and cheaply paid engine that drives it. Slavery exists, it just has been frosted in corpo speak and glitter to fool the masses.

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        Where do you believe slavery still exists in the US? Can you give an example of humans being owned by an individual or company and forced to work for no wages in 2024?

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          Sure: in prisons that are disproportionately filled with minorities, as is explicitly allowed in the amendment.

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              Chattel slavery ended, which is where people literally owned other people as their deeded property. There are other forms of slavery though, like the other commenter mentioned with involuntary labor in prisons. Wage slavery is also a thing.

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      As evidence: We’re the only country that needed a war to decide that slavery was wrong.

      Uh. Pretty sure that’s not even close to true.

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        Okay, Haiti, too. But I don’t really count that because it was a slave revolt.

        But most of Europe just passed a law saying it was illegal.

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          Most of Europe didn’t have any significant amount of slavery to ban. Even then, there was considerable resistance - France abolished slavery during the French Revolution (a time of civil war, if you will remember), then reimplemented it, then abolished it again. Most of Latin America abolished slavery only with wars of independence; many of them not even then, having civil wars of their own during which the issue was resolved. Brazil had a coup over abolishing slavery, much of Africa and the Middle East retained the institution until stripped of independence (via war) during the colonial era… the list goes on.

          Wars over slavery are presented any time there is a powerful slave-holding elite in a post-Enlightenment society.

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          While Europe just reformed and compensated the slavers with money, at least we fought a bloody war to end the slavery menace, bringing the emancipation cause to the forefront of the world. Albeit Reconstruction was sadly misused but at least some good was done for the world.

          Didn’t European countries invade several African kingdoms and tribes and brought emancipation to their slaves?

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      And voting in LOCAL elections, which way, way too many people ignore as not important. We can actually have “better” in a lot of those elections, if people would pay attention. People started paying a lot more attention where I live after a council member skipped 3 straight months of meetings but still had time to go to campaign events, and we realized that there were serious issues with several council members who all voted for conservative bs in lockstep. We managed to flip enough seats that it’s now a 5-4 Democrat majority so the mayor can’t just force through her pro-oil & gas nonsense at every turn, and the new members actually give a shit about the community.

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        My dad is a local official and he couldn’t stop some giant, ugly, car-brained development from going in. He could only vote for the least bad one. Which is still terrible.

        So, no, I don’t think even local elections get us “better.” But “less worse” is still worth voting for because it honestly doesn’t take that much time.

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          They do though? It would be much easier to mobilize on a smaller scale and build up. ike I’m sorry that happened to you but some places are getting better. A few areas have ranked choice which I think is a step forward. Do don’t gone up hope and keep trying to make things better

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    A clearly senile old fuck, or one where its questionable.

    Can we please try younger? Just…young enough where its not a legitimate fear their mental state will start declining rapidly any day?

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    Is there a place on the internet that is not spammed by this liberal bullcrap?

    I just don’t care that much about america.

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    God, what a glorious way to tell that truth! I really hate being in this position but there seems to only be one safe way out.

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    And remember to be rational, to remain somewhat detached from the constant stream of political narratives and spins that gets thrown your way, where the positive or neutral things get ignored because that gets no click-ad revenue, everything that gets screamed at you is a distortion of reality.
    Separate the garbage and the appeal to visceral reactions.

    It’s easier then to see that Biden and his cabinet inherited an incredible mess, is genuinely trying to clean it up, and there are no overnight miracles when the other political party constantly engages in sabotage of the gears of democracy, while a large segment of the population remains electorally apathetic and aloof.

    This constant, perpetual media and social media provocation and clickbait, makes an intellect vulnerable to “divide-and-conquer” tactics, keeps him/her apathetic and aloof, while simultaneously demoralized. And the constant stream of infotainment excrement just keeps on flowing like a river during rainy season.