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  • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    10 months ago

    I honestly don’t know…

    Many of the admins and mods on the threadiverse are cis men, and cis men with a history of reddit norms informing how they approach community building here. And in combination, that means that lots of the subtle stuff, the “just asking questions” guys, the “not all men” folk etc, end up shaping the threadiverse “overton window”. And that means that the “we like the status quo as it is” voices dominate the conversation and ensure that nothing changes.

    The only way it will change is people who aren’t happy with the status quo actively start challenging it and moderating in a way that shifts it.

    And I don’t see that happening en masse. There’s a reason beehaw is close to leaving, and that’s a large part of it. They tried to shift that status quo, they tried to challenge it, and they have very little external support in doing so :\

    • jarfil@beehaw.org
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      10 months ago

      There’s a reason beehaw is close to leaving

      I’ve mentioned it other times, and I think it’s the answer to the question in this post:

      “How can we make Lemmy a safer place for women?”

      The same way that would make Beehaw want to stay!

      IMHO, Beehaw is a litmus test for the ability of Lemmy itself to become a safer place for anyone.

      the threadiverse “overton window”

      I don’t think the threadiverse has a single Overton window, more like each instance has its own. The threadiverse allows those to interact (federate), or not (defederate). There is a lot of technical solutions missing for instances with partially overlapping Overton windows to interact, but I think it’s something that can be done, that should be done.

  • ArtZuron@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Well, really the only way to do that is to try and fix the underlying problem, which is largely the ignorance and or malice of men IRL. That’s a societal issue though, and one that can’t be fixed by Lemmy on Lemmy.

    The best method online is just good moderation and not to let their (harmful actors) disingenuous “but mah free speeeccchh” arguments work.